Covid Jab the Kids ?

If she were old enough and could demonstrate an intelligent understanding of the risks v advantages of the jab to a clinician she could have the jab regardless of a parent's wishes .

This has obviously been introduced to address the "vaccine hesitancy " apparent in a few areas .

I don't know if that is just because you wouldn't give consent even if she was 12, it might help people to know that a child over 12 (past the age of 11) can overrule their parent's refusal to give consent:

"Vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi said parental consent will be needed for vaccinations of 12 to 15-year-olds, but children can overrule parents who do not want them to get the jab but will only be able to do so following a meeting with a clinician".

From: https://www.itv.com/news/2021-09-13/covid-vaccine-for-12-15-year-olds-how-will-the-vaccine-rollout-for-children-work-and-why-only-one-dose

Golfforall and why do you think they have put into children's hand because parents won't allow it

Leannexxx Not into children's hands (only after the child consults with a clinician who knows their medical history etc ) . Why? Because too many parents are getting this very important info from Social Media "influencers " and the like and believing it .

Of course if there are any medical reasons for these kids not to get the jab then obviously they will not have the option of over ruling their parents .

However if the child is intelligent , understands the pros and cons but has a parent with a different view then it is only fair that they can have their view ?

Of course it works both ways , a child (after consultation ) can equally refuse the vaccine even if their parents wish them to have it .

Golfforall believe it or not people can have there own thoughts on things and it has nothing to do with social media put it this way no child in my family will be getting this vaccine thats my nephews and nieces

Leannexxx It may be your view (for whatever reasons ) perhaps that is why the children of age in your wider family will have their own choice . Maybe over time you may wish to have a serious conversation with your GP ?

Views change , especially as the data re Risk /reward becomes overpowering ? Not my place to convince you , but surely your place to at least keep an open mind ?

Golfforall already spoken to my gp and he told me it's my choice because some of the doctors are not getting it either

Leannexxx Your choice of course , but please keep an open mind and go with the data as it evolves . I very much doubt if many Doctors have refused the jab ( apart from for medical reasons ) as they will be required to have it . Maybe you should speak to another GP ?

Golfforall no I'm not it's shouldn't be forced upon people people are being told they will lose there job if they don't get the vaccine but no one had a issue when they was working when this all started

Leannexxx If you won't even keep an open mind and take note of the evidence as it evolves then I'm afraid we have to agree to disagree

Golfforall I don't mind that at all

Golfforall this hasn’t just been introduced for covid. It was a Law Lords ruling some years ago.

Leannexxx nice to see healthy debate

I think you will find that is because 83% of the population are double jabbed ( so there are bound to be more ). If you saw the slides yesterday for those in intensive care (due to COVID ) it told a completely different story 4 to 8 times as many unvaccinated in deep trouble (depending on age group ) . Quite a startling slide I thought .

Ann1984 I really wish I can find the thing on the gov website but can't remember what is was called anyway data said may this year over 50s one jab died 64 double jab 245 died and 164 died without a jab

Leannexxx I have a friend who is on a covid ward and the 4 hospitals near are full with over 10 in icu I asked what age bracket it is and a handful of under 40s rest over 60. My husband refuses jab I have had it.

This can’t be up to a child just like any vaccination a child has even in high school Ned parental consent

Ann1984 that's my point kids can't smoke or drink till there 18 but that can make a decision on a vaccine when there 12 its mad

The 1 jab science is because children have a much more active immune system . That is they readily produce more and longer lasting antibodies than an older person .

Most of the science so far comes from Israel who have vaccinated the vast majority of their children . Most other countries (like ours ) are just starting the programme .

SarahPrice this was explained in the briefing. They are also including the reduction in disruption to education and the associated improvement in mental health.