Michael Jackson and Me Programme
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There is a programme on tonight about Michael Jackson. might be interesting. sad life he had. What do you think?
I think having a sad life does not mean you can do the things that he has SUPPOSEDLY done and get away with it. Anyone who has a sad/bad life should make an extra effort to make sure those around them do not suffer in the same way. I do not know all the details of his alleged deeds but I will just say this: Why would a grown man even have young kids in his bedroom, let alone sleep in the bed with them? No reason whatsoever, especially given the space he had in which the kids he 'loved' could play openly and with other adults present.
Stars always have sad life. Do not really make sense, when they are so rich, they can have anything they want and they even want more. I am not going to watch the program. Pretty much think his family wants to make more money out of his fans
It is about the kids he supposedly abused so it will not make any money for anyone in the Jackson family.
Don't know how true all this is. So many celebrities have false allegations thrown at them.
I remember when the news shown Macaulay Culkin was in his bed, it was very big thing and he was like telling to the media, that he went there to play in his garden...do not know how parents can allow that?....I am not sure if all of these are fake allegations. Mostly rich people have everything and they archive all and there is no more to go for, the only way is down from the fame. It is like they slide into the upside down (Stranger Things) and they become monsters or kill themselves.
And also people do not like to talk about when someone abuse them or rape them. Seems like everyone is just opening now...it is a fashion?new trend?
I really don’t know what to think about the Micheal jackson story. Do we believe the children (now adults) or could they be trying to gain fame and fortune ? Or do we believe that MJ really was childlike himself ? I will certainly be watching the program.
I wonder if they have ever taken a lie detector test and been examined by a body language expert. It seems like a money making scheme especially as Michael Jackson's 10th anniversary death is this year.
Don't know if you read my first comment above but I would ask again.....why would any grown man take children unaccompanied into his BEDROOM. Even the most simple person would realise that it was wrong to do that, and he was not stupid even if he was whacko.
nipperjwb yes. Why aren't they suing their parents for neglect?
Makes you wonder. Happens all the time with stars and money. People jump on a bandwagon all for the money in my eyes and the ones who were affected suffer more as theyre not savvy to going on tv for hours to relive traumatic experiences.
Lynibis According to his friends and family that was his way of being a kid.
Just watched the first part and to be honest im not convinced by their stories. I dont know why but the whole thing has left me feeling uncomfortable. MJ was definately weird and did odd things but peadophillia ?
Saying that I wouldn’t of left my grandson alone with him but then I wouldnt leave him alone with any one I didn’t know.
Also why have so many denied these allegations like Macaulay Caulkin ?
I just don’t buy it
We had a heated discussion in our house about it but at the end of all this he has gone and a music legend. If it is true it doesn’t stop me from listening to his music. Would it you?
I found it pretty hard to watch. How graphic they were being and how young they were. The whole set up with kids, MJ and the kids family were bazaar, but I suppose all these kids seemed to be pushed for the limelight and blinded by the fact it was Jackie and he were offering them to live the life of luxury for a while?!
Are the men doing it for money? because they are angry they were replaced with another kid at the time? I think they are telling the truth you just wouldn’t go to sleep with a young boyin the same bed, hold hands etc I find it really weird l. They would be very sick human beings if they are lying. Only they know the truth.
Those kids that denied anything has happened, you never know he might have not done it to them or the kids might have been so in love with him they dont want to say anything, they may feel they are betraying him if they said anythinG or they don’t see anything wrong about the friendship they had.
See what tonight’s second half brings I suppose. The whole set up seems bizarre to me. I’m inclined to think that these 2 boys (now men) had fame and fortune once and they want it again. Why would one of them keep the expensive gold rings that Jacko gave him if he hated them so much ? I don’t think an abused child would keep trinkets from their abuser. That said I really still don’t know.
i believe the boys. classic grooming behaviour and they were only seven and ten years old at the time. sounded real to me.
I agree too. They felt sorry for him and loved him which is why they kept it secret and defended him.
Reading in the news this morning there are very many differing opinions. Personally I wouldn’t like to be the one that has to make a judgement call on this. I’m by no means a professional but keeping trinkets from your abuser is suspect to me and the mothers smiling and laughing through the interview ??? I know if anyone had touched any of my kids I certainly would not be smiling and laughing. At one point one of the mothers even said that her son was there having fun and she smiled so big I thought her face would crack. Maybe they are telling the truth..... only they know 100%.
It’s difficult to say. I know what you mean by him keeping the trinket. I think that guy is pretty messed up now, he was a guilable young child and to him he thought he was in love and didn’t see anything wrong with it. think he’s holding on to them memories in some sort of way probs still wants that connection cos he’s famous and once in love with him. It’s hard to say just cos people process things and deal with issues differently. let see what tonight’s episode brings
Just because he was popular and famous don't mean he didn't abuse kids but then again people make things up,
so if no proof we can't really say...but we must realise and remember it's a possibility
Then again he seem to really like kids that doesn't make him a pervert or something, he should have been maybe a lot more careful how he acted near kids..
In u.k specially
never let a kid in your house on their own, never let them on your bed or in your bedroom.
Never do anything without asking parents permission.
Don't kiss kids who are not yours, don't hug them a lot...or just don't hug them at all....
Stuff like that can make you look like your doing more then having a simple relationship with kids...
This programme this it's just for the media to get everyone going crazy talking about something...
It's not really doing anything or making any difference.
IT'S JUST media want people to GOSSIP.... BUT thing is HE DID ADMIT TO SLEEPING NEXT TO THE KIDS,
TAKING THEM IN HIS BEDROOM.
BEING ALONE WITH THEM...
So that is very concerning...
NOW why would a grown man famous or not do that?
Why would parents even let that happen is the 1st question!
i dont know if micheal jackson allegidly abused these kids and payed off familys to keep quiet i think they should make these men who accused micheal to have a lie detector lets see if they are telling truth
After watching the second half i have to say I have never heard so much nonsense in my life. They’re not boys trying to get back the youth a peadophile stoke. They’re men trying to regain their lost fame and gain more money. what a bag of rubbish. If anything Im More on Michaels side than ever.
On the strength of this documentary I don't know if the allegations made by these two men are true. Although, there are so many questionable things about Michael Jackson's past and behaviour that remain unresolved. I find it sad that so many people will blindly believe he is innocent just because they like his music. Recent history has shown that many rich, famous and powerful people were able to do horrendous things and get away with it for decades. There are parallels between Michael Jackson and Jimmy Savile. Helping children is often used as a way getting unfettered access to them. Neverland could have been used as a means of doing this. There can be no justification for him to share a bed with children in a mansion. If the allegations made in this documentary are true, then it's awful that so many people are openly dismissive and hostile to the accusers.
They always say people who are abused are probably abusers . I think that statement is harsh i think it should be worded differently to ... when a person is abusing someone it. Comes out that alot of the abused go on to become an abuser ...its been said that MJ was abused physically and mentally by his father so if he has abused the boys its because he doesnt know any different or hes one of the rare abused that in someway. Enjoyed the physical abuse so thought it was right ... apparently on the programme. One of the mothers sat their n laughed all the time when it was being talked about her son being abused ....not being funny but if it was one of my children I wouldn't laugh . I'd seek revenge by finding the blunted chopper that just marked the skin n hurt the accused enough to cause them severe pain n keep hacking for a good couple of days n then take a sharp one n chop away at every part of his body that was able to be hacked off ... fingers toes tongue nose ears then feet hands are legs at the knee then at the knee n shoulder n leave him to bleed out until he was just about to die and then I'd stop the bleeding and give him a transfusion until he was able to understand n feel n get the blunt saw n slowly saw his head off ..
I’m even more inclined to believe that MJ is innocent. I am in no way a massive fan of his so that’s not why I’m saying this. I just do not buy the 2 men’s stories. I do think MJ showed ALOT of questionable behaviour but more along the lines of enjoying being an adult child because he didn’t get a childhood. I think the director has used these 2 men to grow his career and I actually think the men are in it for fame. Being MJ’s friend is not enough that won’t make them any money however being abused by MJ and making a 4 hr documentary about it will fire them in to the spot light and earn them a fortune.
I watched the Leaving Neverland documentary and really felt for the victims. I mean, what normal man asks to have 'sleepovers' with young boys? The most disappointing thing is the parents who ALLOWED their young boys to sleep in the same bed as him. We live in a sick sick sick world.
if Michael was so innocent why did he settle out of court. he should have gone to court and cleared his name if he could. I never saw any mother laughing on the show. they were both really upset by what happened.
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