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Rishi Sunak Wants £10 Fines for Missing GP and Hospital Appointments

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Now I honestly think this is a great idea and this should have been done along time ago would probably save alot of money or make the nhs some money because there has been million of appointment missed

metro.co.uk/2022/07/31/rishi-sunak-wants-10-fines-for-missing-gp-and-hospital-appointments-17098156/

Leannexxx
2 weeks ago
What do you think of this?
SarahfromLeeds
SarahfromLeeds2 weeks ago

Maybe people will think twice to cancel an appointment without good reason. Hopefully the money goes towards NHS

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Gromit22
Gromit222 weeks ago

SarahfromLeeds GPs are self employed outside of the NHS, they chose to do this many moons ago, they wanted to leave but said they still wanted to retain the rights to a NHS pension which the government at that time agreed too. The GPs didn’t get the same pension arrangements agreed for their clerical support staff as part of the deal…. A lot of GP practices make substantial profits - all is not always as it’s portrayed to the general public!

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Howmuch
Howmuch2 weeks ago

They would need to start doing appointments first, my Gp service is a bit wizard of oz. You never know it might make more appointments available, may be hard to administrate I have never seen a doctor or dentist on time, would normally expect to wait for them. It could be a good earner if they pay you £10 when they cancel or are unavailable at the time of your appointment, only seams fair.

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Gromit22
Gromit222 weeks ago

Howmuch fully agree

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Gromit22
Gromit222 weeks ago

Perhaps they could pay us for when they are running late and you have to make up the time at work so you don’t lose money - it has to work both ways!

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx2 weeks ago

Gromit22 I agree with gp as you have said there always late but not with the hospital appointments

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Gromit22
Gromit222 weeks ago

Leannexxx yes hospital have always been on time if not early

Although in April, Me and a few other people didn’t find out they had cancelled our appointments until we turned up at the outpatients clinic at the hospital but when they cancel a clinic within 24 hours there is not a lot they can really do about it

Once I had my rescheduled appointments the staff were very good 👍🏻

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Imnotcheap
Imnotcheap2 weeks ago

I think its a good idea too if the money goes back in to NHS

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Mango4
Mango42 weeks ago

In theory not such a bad idea, but what would be the cost in both monetary terms and staff hours of issuing and collecting these fines , also chasing non payers etc.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx2 weeks ago

Mango4 it's one of them if it comes in then there might not be alot of appointments being miss or people would phone to cancel them

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TheChimp
TheChimp2 weeks ago

Would be £50 if I had my way.

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BonzoBanana
BonzoBanana2 weeks ago

My surgery decided to give me an appointment with 2 hours notice but I had no knowledge of it. It was sent as a SMS message but I didn't have my phone with me at the time as it was charging. It's the only appointment I've ever missed with a doctor and wouldn't want to be fined for that. I think someone else must have cancelled and they were trying to fill the appointment slot. The surgery in question had lots of issues and was taken over by a NHS trust due to the high level of complaints.

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Lynibis
Lynibis2 weeks ago

BonzoBanana I think you would have had a good case for not having to pay that, unless your surgery is extremely unreasonable.

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kate1310
kate13102 weeks ago

This is a great Idea agree with you it should have been done a long time ago

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Pjran
Pjran2 weeks ago

Appointments are sometimes missed because the hospital letter hasn’t been delivered to the patient in time. There would need to be an appeal department so creating more jobs.

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PhilipMarc
PhilipMarc2 weeks ago

Penalizing people automatically than know if something happened to them is a huge flaw with this idea.

This doctor makes very good points whereas GBN's presenter lacks the aware of and some of you here.

For a "Conservative" this sure seems more towards the left.

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tumblespots
tumblespots2 weeks ago

If they charge us for a no-show how much will we get when they aren't available at the allotted time? They are always late and don't think twice about wasting our time.

They also send letters to the wrong addresses or not at all so unless they have had written acceptance of an appointment they can't guarantee that you have been told about it.

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Lynibis
Lynibis2 weeks ago

I agree with him. Obviously you have nothing to fear nor pay out if you keep your appointments, or let them know in advance if you can't make it. I have only missed one appointment in my entire life but cannot for the life of me remember why.

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RegularComper90
RegularComper902 weeks ago

You'd have to be able to get a GP appointment first.

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didbygraham
didbygraham2 weeks ago

The main trouble with something like this is that it would end up costing the NHS more that it got back. It would end up being given to some private company to run and make a vast profit on, with no benefit to the NHS itself. If we had a competent government then maybe it could work, be we haven't. The other thing is that its not always the patients fault (although more often than not it is) and it will once again be the most vulnerable in society who will end up being penalised the most and end up getting even less care than the little they are getting now.

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Golfforall
Golfforall2 weeks ago

I've seen the stats (maybe we should all have checked before commenting ? ) . Why because a Doctors appointment is free 😃. As it should be of course .

Percentage of "no shows " is above 30% Nationwide and over 80% in certain areas .

I accept there may be many reasons for "No shows " - but I'd bet my bottom dollar that if a refundable £10 deposit were required for a booking then the "no shows " would be vastly reduced (or at least they would ring to cancel and not waste clinicians time ?) .

I'm with those who find it extremely difficult to get an appointment at our local practise as they are jammed with booked appointments (a good proportion who don't turn up 😒)

Yes of course access to a clinician should be free it's the NHS after all . But to those who have commented to say they can never get an appointment anyway - Perhaps the answer is right in front of your face - all the no shows , which a refundable deposit would help fix - With obviously all the necessary safeguards to ensure that those short of funds would be exempt the deposit ?

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Kam217x
Kam217x2 weeks ago

I'd go 1 step further and privatise the lot.

You wouldn't dare miss an appointment then.

Plus people would actually start paying more attention to their health and fitness levels.

Genuine hereditary cases are out of ones control and therefore people shouldn't be penalised.

However the majority of cases were self infliction is involved I'd say PAY UP.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx2 weeks ago

Kam217x I wouldn't privatise it but I don't believe that people who come over for holidays or other reason should have to pay with insurance as we would if we fly out of the uk

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suevernon1968
suevernon1968a week ago

Leannexxx I agree with that x

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stuartsmith544
stuartsmith5442 weeks ago

I'm 99% always on the side of the NHS but if I had a £1 for everytime leading up to an appointment normally within a few days I get a phonecall or my wife has her appointment cancelled or rearranged for a later date .

I do think its a good idea but level playing field and if the hospitals or doctors cancel you at the last moment then there should be some sort of retribution or say for example my wife is on the waiting list for surgery and say she is given a date for the surgery and the hospital is rewarded for doing it on that date . If they cancel or rearrange they lose the bonus but if they bring it forward its a bigger reward or same day a reward but not as large and cancel and no reward.

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jam45
jam452 weeks ago

Rubbish headlines for all the wrong reason. I wouldn't pay it if I missed an appointment. After all when I had a doctors' appointment, I was seen to 1-2 hours later!! And why are not the Tories doing this now rather than later? Because Rishi Sunak have no intention of honouring this pledge.

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suevernon1968
suevernon1968a week ago

Ludicrous idea, impossible to police it properly for one. I have had to miss doctors appointments before as I was in hospital- mainly unconscious- and no the hospitals don’t have time to contact my GP in case I had an appointment. Another GP appointment I missed as I had an epileptic seizure in the way to them to discuss my epilepsy medication. Moaning about being seen late for an appointment- would you appreciate it if an alarm clock went off during your appointment as your time was up - so if you had fully discussed what you were there for or not you had to leave - that would ensure everyone was seen on time ? We are humans - not machines. If I have to wait past my appointment time I quite relieved- it means whoever I am going to see doesn’t try to rush the patients out of the door just to try to stay on time and then miss something important. Is it this government that decided GP’s should keep appointments to 10 minutes or less to be able to keep up with demand ? But then isn’t it medical staff that have put their lives on the line during the pandemic- they still had face to face appointments with issues that couldn’t be dealt with over the phone. Please please look at the problem a little more deeply before you judge.

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