Rules need to be set up for posts.
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- Item is in stock.
- Price includes all charges including delivery.
Some website has lots of delivery charges to choose from, some do not charge.
And some of the stock goes so fast, maybe when we share they have stock and after 5 min they do not.
> maybe when we share they have stock and after 5 min they do not.
That is fine. Those deals will get expired when out of stock.
> Some website has lots of delivery charges to choose from, some do not charge.
Lowest price delivery charge should be the standard. In the case of Amazon Prime a price with the delivery charge and a price without. If it doesn't charge there is nothing to add.
1. If not in stock then I'd make sure to state "Backorder".
2. I do that. On Amazon's case, Prime and non-Prime.
Hi Dread
Re No 2: Price should include all charges including delivery
Very few, if any, major online retailers do it this way (where there’s a delivery charge). In my view to do so would be commercial suicide.
Not only are there many delivery options – Standard, Express, Click & Collect, there are also lots of variables such as Free Delivery over £20, or over £10 etc, or Free Delivery if you have an Amazon Prime Account, or Free Delivery if you a Superdrug Health & Beauty Card for example. With Amazon for some products delivery is free over £10, for others over £20, then the delivery price changes again if Amazon is out of stock and the listing switches to a third party seller on Amazon. The only constant in this is the price without delivery. It would be non-sensical to lose that constant.
Just for example take the PlayStation VR Worlds (PSVR) game – price £19.99 at Amazon
Some of the options are:
• Buy the game for £19.99 plus P&P (£1.99) Total £21.98
• Be a Prime Member and get Free Delivery. Total £19.99
• Add another item that I WANT to my shopping basket in order to qualify for FREE Delivery in the UK on orders over £20. Price £19.99
• Add another item that I DON’T REALLY WANT in order to hit the £20 minimum order size required for Free Delivery (such as St John Ambulance 11.5 cm Green Plastic Tweezers for 17p). Total £20.16
My point is that it’s non-sensical to make the Latest Deals headline price £21.98 for a product that is selling for £19.99, that you can actually get for £20.16, or less, or to use a headline price that the majority of buyers won't actually pay.
Including the delivery price in the Headline Price would look nuts for lower priced products too. For example:
Santa Christmas Cards, 10 pack at Tesco. Was £2.50. Save £1, Now £1.50
The Headline Price with Standard Delivery would be £4.50! (Tesco Standard delivery price £3.00). I don’t think we’d get many buyers!
> Very few, if any, major online retailers do it this way (where there’s a delivery charge). In my view to do so would be commercial suicide.
What ? We are not talking about retailers. We are talking about posts on Latest Deals.
> Not only are there many delivery options – Standard, Express, Click & Collect, there are also lots of variables such as Free Delivery over £20, or over £10 etc, or Free Delivery if you have an Amazon Prime Account, or Free Delivery if you a Superdrug Health & Beauty Card for example. With Amazon for some products delivery is free over £10, for others over £20, then the delivery price changes again if Amazon is out of stock and the listing switches to a third party seller on Amazon. The only constant in this is the price without delivery. It would be non-sensical to lose that constant.
Lowest delivery would be the standard. Easy. After all it is a deal site. We are looking for the lowest price. It works for HUKD and is standard. If Prime both prices with or without Prime are stated. It would be nonsensical (and already is looking at the posts here) to have it not be a uniform standard. Making deals more of a chore to look through and looking like catalogue adverts.
> My point is that it’s non-sensical to make the Latest Deals headline price £21.98 for a product that is selling for £19.99, that you can actually get for £20.16, or less, or to use a headline price that the majority of buyers won't actually pay.
What ? If a product is £19.99 and the lowest delivery is £1 then it is £20.99. That is the lowest price you can buy the item. If it has add some tweezers and get it for £20.16 then £20.16 is the lowest price. Again you are not here as a salesman for the companies. You are here to find the lowest prices people can get something. A companies sales are not your problem. You are not their PR guy. If people won't pay then the deal wasn't good. You shouldn't be dressing a bad deal up to try and get sales. That is advertising. We don't want a website filled with adverts do we ? We want bargains that people have found informing others of the lowest prices with honest information.
> Some of the options are:
• Buy the game for £19.99 plus P&P (£1.99) Total £21.98
• Be a Prime Member and get Free Delivery. Total £19.99
• Add another item that I WANT to my shopping basket in order to qualify for FREE Delivery in the UK on orders over £20. Price £19.99
• Add another item that I DON’T REALLY WANT in order to hit the £20 minimum order size required for Free Delivery (such as St John Ambulance 11.5 cm Green Plastic Tweezers for 17p). Total £20.16
Very easy just as it is done on HUKD. Prime £19.99 Non Prime £20.16. The lowest item you can find to add on is the lowest price you have found for non prime users. Free delivery for anything over £20 is standard on Amazon. Of course if you go over £20 when shopping you will get free delivery. The deal is the item you are posting.
> Including the delivery price in the Headline Price would look nuts for lower priced products too. For example:
Santa Christmas Cards, 10 pack at Tesco. Was £2.50. Save £1, Now £1.50
The Headline Price with Standard Delivery would be £4.50! (Tesco Standard delivery price £3.00). I don’t think we’d get many buyers!
You are not meant to be advertising for the stores. Just posting the lowest price you can get items. It would be £1.50. Delivery is not a requirement. You can click and collect. Again buyers is not your concern. Good deals with honest information is.
This is not some foreign concept it is a rule that is used on HUKD. A good one because you know the price you are looking at is what you are going to pay at the lowest (of course faster delivery for more can always be added). Not hiding the charges because we won't get many buyers. If a deal is good people will buy it. The goal is not to advertise stores for buyers like adverts. It is to find the lowest price you can get items into your hands.
I don't think there's a need to worry about things such as this right now. Let's try and build up the community first and then we can argue and debate later on about the rules.
You won't build up the community doing posts like adverts in magazines. This is to build up the community. There needs to be a uniformed standard. Making posts a lot easier to look through and having valuable information in the title. Look at any deal on HUKD you know what you are paying at a glance. They have already spent a lot of money finding what works. Here not so much. Not posts with FREE DELIVERY in capitals as free delivery or paid delivery wouldn't matter. The one that is the cheapest to buy and get delivered is.
For example Steam Link
http://store.steampowered.com/app/353380/ (it says £15.99 but is actually £22.65) £22.65 would be the price given.
http://www.game.co.uk/en/steam-link-816924 (actually £15.99) £15.99 would be the price given.
FREE DELIVERY isn't needed in the title. Postage isn't needed in the description. One is £22.65 and one is £15.99. I can see that at a glance and know the best option.
I Think That As There Is A Limit To How Many Posts You Can Do There Should Also Be A Minimum To How Many Deals Are Made
Postage Is A Personnel Choice The Buyer Decides If It Is Worth It Or Not Items Do Not Always Include P&P
> Postage Is A Personnel Choice
Not if the only way to get it is delivered.
> Items Do Not Always Include P&P
And why the cost of everything being included is much simpler and easier to view. You don't worry if anything is included or not. You just see the price, at the minimum, you are going to pay.
Obviously not. You don't include the air that you breathe or the energy you use carrying it either. You do obviously include all the costs the particular retailer charges you to get the item though. Like i say it isn't rocket science it is being used and has been for years by HUKD. The reason ? It is much more helpful for people reading and easier to see at a glance if a deal is good or not. No hidden charges.
In the case of something lets say Tesco Direct. The item is £1.50. It is £1.50 C&C or £4.50 Delivered.
Tesco isn't charging for that though. They don't charge for the electricity to use electrical items either. We are not planning somebody's day out. We are letting them know the cheapest they can get something from a retailer. They can decide if a journey is worth £3 or not. Just like they can decide if an item is value or not.
We deal in facts. C&C and delivered gives people those facts at a glance. Their personal situation we don't know. They work out if the deal is good for them and if a trip to the shop is worth it by going off the facts we provide. C&C and delivered is the best way to show everyone immediately the information they need. If it is a person near a shop who can go or somebody in the middle of nowhere needing delivery.
Not sure what you mean by this or if you are replying to the last comment because it doesn't make sense if so.
Think you're making a way too big of a deal out of this. Just like Bash said, let's wait for the community to grow in users and then we'll get back to this.
A sugggestion in its own thread. Creating a large community and then changing the rules will not work. The rules would be there to create a large community. The haphazard posting making the site a chore to look through isn't working for anybody but the 5 posters. The community doesn't automatically grow. They need to stay around. I wanted this site to be competition for HUKD. HUKD is far more intuitive to look through though. You end up just going there to view deals better.
Dread The community will hopefully grow by the word of mouth and publicity on Facebook. Not sure about Twitter.
YouTube is always changing stuff up and people get used to it.
Dread The website isn't mine nor would I wish to. I know how big of a headache it can be to keep everything in control and especially spammers/trolls (IMDb has a lot of these and the staff just can't take care of it, then again, IMDb is pretty friggin' huge so not comparable I'd agree).
Or make suggestions and get this one changed for the better. Don't be ridiculous in thinking the one with 5 users is right and the one with hundreds of thousands of users is wrong. It doesn't take that many brains to know what works for users does it ? You could probably go visit some other threads instead of making idiotic comments here. Haven't you got some deals to copy from HUKD ? Good luck with that.
PS. You do know every word doesn't require a capital letter don't you ?
Dread with 5 users
And that's why the website first needs to expand before getting into changes as that can be amended later. Dread, I don't disagree with you but there's other priorities for LD right now.
Rockman With 5 users it is easy to apply the rules. I don't know why something simple wouldn't be implemented especially as it helps the site to attract new users by being better to view.
At the moment why use Latest Deals over HUKD ? It is filled with posts of things at RRP or above. Bad to view with no good deals standing out from really bad deals that are posted. No quick way to see the lowest price you will be paying. No uniform standard. To an average person why would you stay here and not go to HUKD ? Let us face it most of the posters here are taking their deals from HUKD. When they are not they are posting something that isn't even a deal.
Google search is a reason for wanting unique content added. This is why the description of a deal should have something. The title should always be a uniformed standard for better viewing giving all the vital information.
You can advertise the site all you want. You can bring yourself higher in Google search. You can get people to view a certain topic. What you want is regular users who come back and engage in the site. There was one that brought over 1000 views. That didn't change anything. The site is still an echo chamber with nobody bothering to use the site regularly out of those visitors. No comments in any threads (bar the savvibuy one in chat) from people other than us. The reason is the site is a mess to view and use. Converting visitors to users should be a top priority.
I clicked this expecting to pay 6p it was actually £3 /s
https://www.latestdeals.co.uk/deals/cheapest-nappies-price-comparison-save-60-asda
If Tesco were doing a 3 for 2 (like it says) it would be £7.50 for 144 nappies. Surely cheaper per nappy than £9 for 144 from Sainsbury's ? It could be that it was a mistake though as i can only see 3 for £10 at Tesco. Whichever way wouldn't it be much much simpler to just post a deal £3 for 48 nappies at Sainsbury's ? Vital information in the title with the price you pay and how many you get ? The community then deciding if that is a good price or not and if there is a better deal out there.
Then we have stupid posts like this posted as deals. Somebody just guessing when a sale will take place. Ridiculous. Made even more so by being liked by the 5 people here.
https://www.latestdeals.co.uk/deals/when-does-the-january-2017-boots-70-off-sale-start-boots
The site is using sales talk like it is a company selling you something. The point of a community deal site is to cut through that shit.
We see things at RRP posted like this and getting as many upvotes as most good deals.
https://www.latestdeals.co.uk/deals/sony-ps4-move-twin-pack-argos
Yet we all know in the real world it is a terrible deal and RRP.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/playstation-move-controllers-shopto-for-69-85-2587455
On HUKD i can see what i am going to pay in the title including if i have Prime or not, have a subscription or not etc. I can also see instantly a good deal from a bad one. I can scroll through many deals without any need to click into them to investigate further. I don't get sales talk or hidden prices distracting from the deal and the information i need. Making reasons to not use this site and use HUKD very strong for the average visitor. More people visiting Latest Deals isn't going to change that.
Anyway I have given it as feedback labelled as feedback in its own thread. The site can do what it wants with it. I am past caring.
Speaking of capitals, one cannot blame scalpers for buying up the stock of a product and then having buyers fight (not literally) among themselves to get it. It's just business in itself.
Haha i think there was a few in here. Didn't know if i should post the new Alien trailer into the trailers thread as it is a red band trailer. Looks good though
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