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So what tier have you been put into? and what effect does that have you? and do you think your tier will change?

I'm up in Newcastle so we were guaranteed a tier 3 and we will probably be in tier 3 until a vaccine has been fully rolled out because we are the expendable north!

It doesn't really effect me that much as I'm not venturing to pubs in the current climate but being in tier 3 is going to do some damage to the hospitality sector and local article reckons 40% of that sector will collapse in Newcastle.

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TheChimp

I wouldn't worry about it too much, we're going to be in a lot of a worse position in January after the clown governments have decided to let 3 households to meet up at Xmas. Factor in the returning students, and we're all heading for s*it street.

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hrdaniels1980

TheChimp totally agree with you, why don’t they shut the schools as well!

My eldest boy is a bus driver and he has to do some school runs with up to 5 different local schools on one bus. He’s not allowed to tell the kids to put a mask on only advice. He’s putting his life at risk (he had heart surgery 10 years ago) because the company won’t use more buses 🤬

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SilverSurfer

TheChimp I’m not worried about it because nothing changes for me apart from I could visit a non essential shop.

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TheChimp

hrdaniels1980 That's tough with him being a front line worker.

I wouldn't want any contact with youngsters (25 years and younger) because they don't give a 💩, they think that they're immune or won't get properly ill from it.

What they don't understand is that it could kill their grandparents/great grandparents.

There's a lot of people that will be crying in January.

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TheChimp

Getsome Well hopefully you won't meet any virus ridden people while you're there.

As for the pubs and restaurants around here, they all SUCK... badly.

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SilverSurfer

TheChimp I could visit but I won’t be. Life is like this until a vaccine for me

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TheChimp

And while we're talking about it, do you reckon that the hospitality sector should put profit before Covid infections/deaths?

It seems the most selfish thing to do to be honest.

Earning a couple of more pounds does not equate to the spread of Covid and how it effects the families of people who have died from catching the virus through these places.

BBC News - Covid tiers 'a mortal blow' to hospitality

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55078610

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SilverSurfer

TheChimp no I think they should be supported by the government like most businesses who have paid taxes

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davidstockport

Getsome How about the people who aren't spending money in the "hospitality venues" helping them out? If the government help them out it is money that could have been paid into the coffers by some of the people who couldn't afford to, or wanted to, use them in the first place.

I won't be helping them - I'm still seething about being charged £5.15p for a pint of beer last Christmas. (I remember when that was two weeks wages☺).

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SilverSurfer

davidstockport Everyone that has paid taxes should be getting support from the government.

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davidstockport

Getsome

Yes everybody should get help but the hospitality sector (not being essential) should be a long way down the list, and it's a very long list, even those at the top of the list can not expect to be unaffected, the debt accruing is at a rate that will affect future generations.

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TheChimp

davidstockport At least you won't need anymore help seeing as you're on ESA and PIP.

Count yourself lucky.

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SilverSurfer

davidstockport Everyone could get help that needs help if the government spent the money they should have.

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davidstockport

TheChimp Not LUCKY I worked, earned and saved what I have got - I didn't use the money to attempt to pickle my kidneys.

I had no idea about what ESA or PIP were (never had a penny benefits) - but will assume you did. I worked from my 15th birthday and retired on my 65th. I had health problems in my forties but retrained at my own expense, unlike some who just give up and rely on benefits.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/employment-and-support-allowance/help-with-your-esa-claim/check-if-you-can-claim-esa/

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Golfforall

20% of schoolkids are or have been off school because of Covid "symptoms" ? - 0.2% of these have subsequently tested positive and obviously none have died or even been seriously ill . They are hard facts .

Understandable perhaps , an overabundance of caution . However I prefer to view the statistics and confirmed facts than believe all the rumours and theories floating around on various websites and sections of the media .

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that missing any more education would be far more detrimental to children (today and in their futures ) than the miniscule risk of being at school .

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TheChimp

Golfforall Are you for real? I'm going to have to disagree with you again here.

I'm qualified in statistics and I can tell you that the 0.2% is an absolute pile of balls.

And then you have to factor in the amount of cases that have been caused by the school kids, which is many.

I don't know where your head is at the moment tbh.

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Golfforall

TheChimp Nothing to do with stats - stats are only as good as the info put in . Read up on it (not my figures ). 0.2% of school age kids have tested positive .

Yes of course you can prove anything with statistics - but 0.2% isn't a statistic it's an England wide fact . Put your "qualified statistician " hat on that !

Just because "your view " is that schooling is causing the spread of the virus don't ignore the facts that prove it to be a false view.

More facts - the R number has dropped to below 1 for the first time since August , infections have dropped below 20000 a day - and guess what Kids are still going to school .

Think you may have to reassess your deeply flawed view ?

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TheChimp

Golfforall The problem is this is that school children aren't tested for covid-19.

What I'm saying is that statistics can be bent in favour of whatever you want the outcome to be.

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Golfforall

TheChimp I'm not using statistics I'm using published data , and obviously there is no way to say that that 0.2% caught it at school , a good proportion probably caught it at home from an adult in the house hold .

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TheChimp

Golfforall Published data is statistics.

Don't we all know that the spread will be coming from schools and universities?

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Golfforall

TheChimp Universities , yes , young adults that's obvious , but I don't think that's because of classrooms somehow !

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AliceBell64468

I am in Tier 3 but still have to go to work everyday to a vehicle dealership! I am disappointed to hear of the 5 day lift - I appreciate people miss their family but surely it’s just going to make things worse and potentially cause further lockdowns?

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SilverSurfer

Did you not know Covid is taking a 5 day break for xmas?

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Imnotcheap

We going down to tier 2 but wont make any difference to me. I'm only going out if absolutely necessary (I'm going out in morning to buy kids advent calendars because Asda didn't have any left for our online shop but they lost enough this year and going to be less of a Christmas so can't deny them a calendar each)

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lilyflower

Going from a rural 2 to a 3, it's the nuggets in the town 😞

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cocolgooh

I was in tier 2 before and will still be in tier 2, but I live less than 5 minutes from where a tier 3 border starts, and the local supermarket etc are in tier 3.

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SuzJ

We're tier 2. I have to read up on what it means for us as we just stay in anyway.

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PhilipMarc

"will probably be in tier 3 until a vaccine has been fully rolled out"

After they release it and people take it, they'll allow people to live their lives normally.

My grandma isn't around anymore so she's got nothing to worry about.

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TheChimp

PhilipMarc My grandmothers aren't around anymore, but if they were, I'd be worried.

I just have to worry about my parents who are in their mid-70s and ignore the rules.

They are being very selfish imo and it's going to be me and my sister who have to pick up the pieces if one or both of them dies.

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SilverSurfer

Yeah we are gonna be in some sort of lockdown until a vaccine is rolled out. What do you propose I do instead?

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Glitterandgold

Not surprised Newcastle is in tier 3 I fully expected it. It is what it is. Nothing will change for us. Iv long excepted 2020 is a write off socially.

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SilverSurfer

Of course we were tier 3. That was probably decided the day we went into national lockdown lol.

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lilyflower

Getsome Glitterandgold Don't want to alarm but a well known hospital in your city has just extended it's Covid testing programme 😞

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SilverSurfer

lilyflower If its the RVI then I expect it as they are virology specialists

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lilyflower

Getsome I meant the general testing of staff etc, pods were due to close end of August then March now June 😞 They expect it to go on well into next year.

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SilverSurfer

lilyflower They will be going until summer more than likely. They will be busy in Jan/Feb when Covid returns from its winter break over Christmas.

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lilyflower

Getsome They're busy now, have three 'testing pods' running, only went down to one for about a month.

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SilverSurfer

lilyflower Be 6 by end of Jan

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Ann1984

Won’t know what’s happening with wales until tomorrow most probably mass testing in my area. It won’t bother me what they do as long my family healthy and alive. Just waiting now for everyone to start morning they can’t celebrate new year.

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TheChimp

Ann1984 I think that we might be going into another lockdown before Xmas.

It's getting worse and worse here in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion also.

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Ann1984

TheChimp i think the same too. Before they do i need a hair cut 🤣

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Moonstone22

I'm in tier 3 and will probably continue to be for a very long time as nobody knows the meaning of social distancing where I come from

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SilverSurfer

Around here it seems to be since you are wearing a mask you don't need to social distance 🤯

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neo1

Im in tier 2 but its only a matter of time i think, but we all know whats gonna happen after Christmas anyways !

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SilverSurfer

Lockdown 3.0 lol

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Deleted41705

Im tier 2 currently. I just feel confused. I can go to indoor event with 1000 people but I can't go see my nan...

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Ceebers

Tier 2 - Basically it's still lockdown for me, but phrased in a slightly different way.

I am done with it. I have seen a handful of people since March. There is only so much a Zoom video call can do.

The cases where I live are super low. Deaths some of the lowest in the country. So let's lock everyone down and screw business and the economy.

This Government has let a lot of people down.

Xx

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SilverSurfer

Unfortunately when Economy is before lives then this what we have.

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MrsCraig

Where I am in Scotland is tier 3 but had been talk about moving to tier 2. They only way it affects me is my normal supermarket is now in tier 2 so will have to use a different supermarket but that's not a big deal and not something I'm complaining about. I go out once a week to do the weekly shop and thats it so won't affect me either way. I certainly won't be surprised when we are put into another lockdown after Christmas.

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LeighReidAtanas

Tier 2 just following the guidelines and doing what I am told. I am also a carer for my mother so I worry as she is high risk

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