Ravensburger Disney Dumbo / Snow White 1000 Piece Jigsaws FREE DELIVERY

The RRP is from Amazon so it probably is incorrect, yes. Prime delivery isn't free. You pay £7.99 a month for it.

Good deal in Argos though!

Dennab No you are completely wrong there.

You don't pay £7.99 for Prime Delivery. You pay £7.99 for a subscription to Amazon Prime, and unlimited free delivery is just one of the benefits.

As an Amazon Prime member, you have access to:

Prime Delivery: Unlimited One-Day Delivery, Same-Day Delivery, and 2-Hour Delivery with Prime Now in select residential postcodes

Prime Video: Unlimited streaming of Movies, TV shows, and Amazon Originals

Prime Music: Over two million songs, always ad-free and on-demand

Exclusive Deals and offers, just for Prime members

You can read all about the other benefits here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/amazonprime

Johnny Looks better than some of the ads for Prime! You missed your calling there with those supreme graphic skills to go alongside it.

Something isn't free if you are paying a fee to receive it though. Don't be a silly billy. If I paid a £7.99 subscription for cucumbers I don't really need and they included unlimited tomatoes in the deal, the tomatoes wouldn't be free.

Johnny I just had a message from Jeff. He said please tell Johnny: "I've lost your number but thank you so much for your continued hard work in promoting my business. I hope the shares are giving a good return. xxx".

Dennab I know you hate Amazon, and you can moan and groan all you like, but yes you’re right Amazon Shares have proven to be a good investment. I have bought Amazon shares on several occasions since the early days when I recognised what a scaleable business it was.

Just for example a $1,000 investment in 2009 was worth more than $13,300 at the end of 2019, a total return of around 1,232% (Source: CNBC). It certainly beats 0.5%-2% a year interest on cash in the bank. But please don’t take this as investment advice, don't take investment advice from random people on the internet, always do your own research, and ideally only invest in what you know about, with money you can afford to lose. And whatever you do, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Just for the record, almost nine in ten (86%) Brits are Amazon shoppers. This time last year Amazon Prime UK membership was around the 15 million mark. Younger consumers are the biggest fans of Amazon Prime, with 63% of 16-24s and 52% of 25-34s having access to Amazon Prime. (Source: Mintel). But I reckon Amazon will have added several million more Prime subscribers to that figure in the last couple of months. Certainly the number of Prime Subscribers is growing exponentially.

You may hate Amazon – but many many millions of people, me included, are big fans.

Johnny Great. The facts don't change though. Did you know that 9 in 10 Brits are Amazon shoppers? I don't think you mentioned it up until now. I'm one of them. Did you know delivery is included on many items without giving them an extra 95 quid a year? I'm not sure I mentioned that. With the amount of Amazon offers on here, you'd think they bring a nice affiliate income into Latest Deals too. Wait a sec...

Dennab Not just the amount of Amazon offers, the amount of Amazon shoppers too. Amazon deals are popular on here for good reason. It's easy to forget that Amazon isn't just one store, besides Amazon itself, there are 300,000+ other sellers also using the Amazon platform to sell their wares.

I'd put money on at least half of LD members having a Prime subscription or access to one.

I read somewhere that a large number of companies have stopped paying affiliate commission during the current crisis - some to reduce their 'marketing' costs (always one of the first cuts in a recession, the marketing budget) - some to slow down demand they can't keep up with, at least until they re-organise themselves and safer working conditions and can get more people back to work.

Johnny Yes, some companies have stopped paying commission and have struggled. We can't be highlighting that one minute and be marketing the benefits of Amazon the next though. I have no doubt about your assumption with regards to Amazon Prime membership on here. You and I are at different ends of the scale I think winning in our own ways but with millions of people in the middle probably falling into the trap of clever retail marketing. You're buying products you know are cheaper (I assume you check) in the masses, you're not encouraged to buy more just because it's there and therefore saving more than £7.99 a month on those essential purchases, cancelling out the fee. I buy the odd product when I actually need it because the vast majority of anything I want is either cheaper elsewhere online or somewhere close by or available with free delivery anyway on Amazon. The only time I have ever found Prime useful was when I needed products the next day for business reasons. In that case, even if I'd paid for it, that would be convenience money which is a whole other thing isn't it? My view is a lot of people would be better off in my boat if they actually sat down and did the calculations. It's easier just to pay though isn't it, just like everything else these days going through a subscription system. It's the way companies make money now. No longer do we just pay for something only when we need it.

Johnny Experience in marketing? The mind boggles! I see how you managed to retire early then. You're fascinated by the bigger picture, as am I but to a lesser extent. I'm very much focussed on being the consumer here and from my point of view, the subscription model does indeed increase customer loyalty by providing a false sense of security in the value of what a retailer is providing. I personally can see through it, along with the other tricks such as publishing RRPs which has of course been a trick for many years! I agree that time is a valuable resource but if we include that in the equation, it complicates things somewhat doesn't it? Use of time brings about other factors such as whether it is time in which you could be earning money or time that you enjoyed as I like the hunt of a good deal personally. That's why I joined HUKD and LD! You're bringing in a subjective opinion there. I once drove around 10 different Tescos to buy a pressure washer for £21.12 instead of over £100 (fuel was a tenner). It was time in which I would have not been doing any work and probably watching TV and most importantly, I enjoyed it! What is Latest Deals? Is it a community of people who want the BEST deal or a community who want almost the best deal as long as it doesn't require much effort? I don't know.

Dennab

Publishing RRPs is very rarely a trick by the retailer. RRPs are set by the manufacturers not the retailers. In fact the RRP is the only constant there is in pricing that can be relied upon by consumers. (Occasionally the retailer also owns some of the brands it is selling and that does get confusing, if that's not made clear).

The problem is more to do with the RRP being set artificially high by some manufacturers - Braun electric toothbrushes for example. Personally I think a lot of RRPs in the fashion sector are set ridiculously high. I very rarely pay full price for clothes in the UK. It's counterproductive, in the end no one wants to buy anything unless it's at least 70% off.

There are a few retailers who deliberately lie about the RRP, falsely overstating it to trick consumers (especially in the video game market) but actually most don't - because it's illegal. Some retailers get around it by publishing 'Was' prices (often higher than the RRP which can and usually is true), or by simply showing a price without indicating whether it is a 'was price' or an RRP, followed by the deal price.

It all makes posting deal prices on LD more difficult - ultimately consumers just have to decide if they think the deal price they are being asked to pay is reasonable. And there's plenty of tools online to help them do that.

Amazon try to get the RRP right and encourage reporting of incorrect pricing information - I report stuff to them nearly every day and they correct it very quickly. They also encourage you to let them know if you see a product they are selling cheaper elsewhere (and quite often drop their price to match or beat it).

I think the quality of data entry sucks though. Sometimes the RRP that's displayed is a hangover from the previous product the data entry clerk has just done I reckon, too lazy to clear all the fields properly before starting a new product entry.

Johnny Plenty of tools online. Yes, agreed. Jokes aside, I am interested in two things - spending as little money as possible even if I have to wait two more days for it and finding unique deals that nobody else has discovered. I do not think that is shared by the majority on here so I'm always going to come up against it. You only have to look at that Philips thing I found a great discount for the other day and see it has virtually no interest. I then look at a pack of 8 bloody rocket lollies posted just to take the mick and also show they're the same price everywhere in reaction to another post. The latter has gained way more traction. You speak about the psychology so analyse that! Also, you say tools are there to check prices but people don't use them before clicking like do they. You then get a scenario where the best deals are not at the top in popularity. How many members then click on the popular one and don't even check before wasting their money? There's a great example of this today. Search for LED Touch Light. Two identical products, both on Amazon, one 4 quid cheaper. Guess which one is 'trending'. That's another example of a massive (probably made up) RRP making a deal look better. That is why I comment so much. It annoys me when people are getting ripped off and that seems to be shared by a small minority on here, including the person who posted the cheaper of those two lights.

Johnny I know. I've been part of that discussion for a short time or maybe longer than people may think but certainly been a spectator for a long time. It brings up the question of why post anything or comment? I was saying to my other half earlier, there is only one outright winner here and that is LD. Everything we post is potential affiliate income and everything we write is free content to drive SEO. I think it's the little wins for me though. If one person saves money, gets a cheap laugh out of something I say or finds it useful, it's been worthwhile, even if the whole system is backward.

Johnny I was on HUKD for years before LD and still a member. If people think my criticism is too much, they should look on there. It's downright nasty and goes way beyond anything I say! I think the quality of deals is better though and that could be down to demographic, member numbers, the more 'honest' criticism or the lack of points system. I personally think it's mostly the latter but as you said, it's a popular topic of discussion. It annoys me that I still have to go on there if I want to find the best deal for the majority of items because although I double check before buying, it's usually very reliable. I criticise on here because I want it to be better and know it can be! That said, they still have the issue of people voting for stuff based on liking the product and an issue which is more of a feature on both sites - some deals being blatant advertising arrangements. They do see LD as a rival though (anything mentioning LD on HUKD gets deleted) which the lads running this site should see as a big compliment.