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Many "Amazing " Care Workers Will Lose Their Jobs Today .

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It is an invaluable job , and should be a well paid career . I am sure that care workers are probably the most undervalued professionals in our society ?

Sadly it has over the years become the "go to" job for those who do not have lofty educational qualifications ?

How can you compare a genuine caring nature against a University degree , diploma or whatever ?

I don't mind admitting that I have qualifications up to my eyeballs in various fields - but could never do a carers job and have nothing but respect for those that do .

I respect anyone's decision to have the jab or not - but most of the refusers are acting on worries that have surely been disproved by now , and to be honest promoted on various disgraced social media sites where too many get their "News " these days 😣.

I , like 95% of our population trusted the science ( In the UK and worldwide ) and had our jabs , which has led to the pandemic being controlled .

We have a few refusers pop up on here on Chat every now again - never saying thank you to the vaccinated 95% who have almost certainly saved them and their families from the clutches of this virus ?

Life is one long risk . Surely these wonderful folk who work in the care sector should be afforded professional advice to alleviate their worries a s a priority ?

Golfforall
3 weeks ago
What do you think of this?
SarahHorsfield
SarahHorsfield3 weeks ago

I was once a carer

Think the industry will struggle Iaa it already is if they go ahead with the blackmail of been vaccinated or not

It’s a difficult job but people think it’s a easy job

And really really am worried now as people just accepted for the jobs too easily

You really don’t think it about as a job it’s as rewarding for you as it the individuals you care for

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

A very undervalued profession - and has been for some years . You can't "teach " someone to become a "caring person " . You can , perhaps , train them in the skills of being a carer ? But some people are genuine caring people others are just not suited to the role .

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SarahHorsfield
SarahHorsfield3 weeks ago

Golfforall yes worked with quite few of those kind

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

SarahHorsfield I freely admit I could not do the job and everything it involves . That is why I believe that those who can should be fairly rewarded .

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Ann1984
Ann19843 weeks ago

When my youngest is older this is the career I am going to look into. I done it for a year experience when was younger doing a gcse course and loved it. I love listening to there stories. Not the best paying job but I would prefer this then working with a load of randoms in a store or office

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

I can see your point - I couldn't do it - but for those who can it must be so rewarding to see how much difference to people's lives you can effect . It must be a rewarding career , but the wages should surely reflect the "non technical" skills required ?

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SarahHorsfield
SarahHorsfield3 weeks ago

Ann1984 some jobs we don’t do for the money

I loved the elderly soooo many stories n wisdom to share

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Ann1984
Ann19843 weeks ago

SarahHorsfield and always a new one everyday

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davidstockport
davidstockport3 weeks ago

Well this should weed out the so called "carers" who don't care about the safety of those they're supposed to "care for" or their colleagues who "care enough" about their own safety, the safety of their colleagues, and that of those in their care, to get jabbed.

Those who have reasons to not be vaccinated will be exempt and hopefully will eventually get some protection via "herd immunity" which can not be achieved until all those who can be vaccinated get jabbed.

Hopefully this will also prevent many care homes becoming the death camps they were for thousands during the early stages of this pandemic.

Some might wonder what happens to all those who lose their jobs - personally I DON'T CARE. I care more about the vulnerable residents in care homes.

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gerrykelly25
gerrykelly253 weeks ago

What will now happen to the elderly/vulnerable people who will be living in severely understaffed facilities? What a terrible situation. It makes me sad

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blacklabrador
blacklabrador3 weeks ago

It truly is an undervalued, and underpaid job.

I do wonder though, If you are caring for somebody who is either old, disabled, or both, why you wouldn't have the Covid jabs?

Having the Injections is as much to do with helping others as it is protecting yourself.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

It shouldn't be focused on people and I think care home will struggle now to find staff this shouldn't have been done having a vaccine is a choice and I'm sick of people making out that there saints because they had it you all have it to protect yourself so don't make out it was for everyone else

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bzortead
bzortead3 weeks ago

They are not forcing anyone to get the vaccine, they are imposing a requirement for THIS JOB in particular. Do you want to work with highly vulnerable people and not get vaccinated? Better look for another job then. What is the use of having many care works available if they can spread the virus and create a highly dangerous environment for these vulnerable people?

Vaccines were required in many parts of the world, long before COVID. All jobs have requirements, such as not being able to have a pending criminal conviction, etc. Vaccination is just another one of them.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

bzortead at the end of the day these people worked there arse off with this covid some even stayed at the care home for weeks and what does the government do get jab or lose your job why is it there is still people in care homes who have not been vaccinated or people who are going to see there family members have to be vaccinated but that's ok tho as long as the staff do what the government want and yes is it being forced on these people them have a choice to make between the job they love or a vaccine it's a joke

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bzortead
bzortead3 weeks ago

Leannexxx Yes, it is a joke to risk even more lives at care homes.

"Overall, more than 39,000 care home residents died with the virus between 10 April 2020 and 31 March 2021"

Let's risk more deaths, because a care worker doesn't want to be vaccinated against the virus that killed thousands of care homes residents.

MAKES SENSE!

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

bzortead why was there so many deaths? Because the government didn't do what was need they didn't have ppe they were left on there own fact is they new this was coming and could have tried to do something about it then not when it was to late

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bzortead
bzortead3 weeks ago

I am 100% sure that when you go to a restaurant, you expect the chef's, waiters, etc., to follow sanitary rules, and doing so, not contaminating your food. Same principle!

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bzortead
bzortead3 weeks ago

Leannexxx There was no vaccines as well, and now we have it.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

Leannexxx Indeed and how many care workers and their charges died because there was no vaccine available back then ? Now there are vaccines available - proven worldwide to be safe and effective . Hundreds of millions of doses given , why would any intelligent person even consider not having the jab ?

It can only be down to a lack of knowledge and understanding , we must put more resources into educating those who apparently don't want to be educated .

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

Golfforall you know my views the government have gone about it all wrong these people have done nothing wrong and now there made to feel they have I'm sure there must be a better way to get these people to have it with out losing there jobs it's all wrong that's what ****** me off

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

bzortead no there wasn't and yet they still worked didn't they? So who's gonna help them now?

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bzortead
bzortead3 weeks ago

Leannexxx Having the vaccine is part of it. Why someone work in the health industry if they do not believe in science? Maybe we should go 500 years back and use herbs, magic potions. They were so effective that the life expectancy was about 45 years hahaha

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

Leannexxx Each and every government in the world by enabling millions to get the vaccination ( ours among the leaders in that push , only Israel were faster ).

Can you imagine what our country would be like now , if there was no vaccination available or If 95% of the population had refused it ?

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davidstockport
davidstockport3 weeks ago

Leannexxx Q: Who's going to help those who should know that it's imperative to get jabbed to protect themselves, their colleagues and those in their care?

A: Possibly the NHS via their psychiatric services.😀

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SilverSurfer
SilverSurfer3 weeks ago

What I don't understand is why only care homes? why not the whole NHS? It just doesn't make any sense.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

SilverSurfer it will be all the NHS aswel it's ok tho they don't want to lose any staff over winter so they are giving them till April so that's nice of the government letting them keep there's jobs for now

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BonzoBanana
BonzoBanana3 weeks ago

Also you could extend it to retail where people are mixing with many people. I mean someone serving at a till could perhaps be dealing with 100s of people per day. Someone with a compromised immune system perhaps due to cancer treatment still has to buy food and go shopping. I get vaccinated as soon as I can and wear a mask in areas with lots of people i.e. shops. It's just the right thing to do but if I was in the care profession I would be even more keen to take precautions and protect others. I just don't get the thought processes of people who think they can be in such a profession and not take as many precautions as possible and I would apply that to care services, nhs, retail etc.

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SilverSurfer
SilverSurfer3 weeks ago

Leannexxx I know it will be, it just makes no sense it should have been NHS same time as care homes.

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davidstockport
davidstockport3 weeks ago

Possibly because they had to start somewhere and the care homes which were shown in the first stages of the pandemic to have a disproportionate number of deaths, seemed the logical place to start.

Some NHS workers have been compelled to have certain vaccinations for years before the current pandemic was heard of. Vaccinations are not only for the protection of those who have them but also for the protection of those they come in contact with.

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SilverSurfer
SilverSurfer3 weeks ago

davidstockport If they are going to be logical and start anywhere its should have been anyone involved with the NHS.

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davidstockport
davidstockport3 weeks ago

SilverSurfer Many people involved with the NHS do not come in contact with NHS patients - some don't even come in contact with other NHS workers... I see your point though😀 😀

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Pjran
Pjran3 weeks ago

I believe all care workers whether in a private care home or NHS should be vaccinated to protect themselves, patients and colleagues. If genuinely exempt they should be issued with a license which could be laminated and worn on a lanyard then the patient can decide if they want that person to assist them.

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beccatavender
beccatavender3 weeks ago

I agree with you I couldn't be a paid carer, I would do it for someone I loved. I hope that they would have already received reassurance from the medical community prior to now. I am sure the government will backtrack once they can't get staff.

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didbygraham
didbygraham3 weeks ago

I agree with vaccines and am fully up to date with mine and staff should be vaccinated, but this coming from a goverment that couldn't give a fig about care workers or patients in nursing homes at the start of the pandemic, and a government that is so lackadaisical with the covid restrictions. A government that insists that all staff working in Parliament must wear masks - but somehow MPs themselves are immune so dont have to, and all lead by a prime minister who couldn't even be bothered to wear a mask when he visited a hospital (I know he did apparently wear one for some of his visit - when he was asked to - but why should he need to be reminded when everyone else around him is wearing them). Staff working in these areas are tested often and they will all be wearing ppe when in contact with patients which is more than most people that those patients will come into contact with. All this will do is further cut staffing numbers in areas which are desperate for staff already.

When Rees Mogg was explaining that conservative MPs didnt need to wear masks he stated "We on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit" You go into almost any care setting and you will find staff with an amazing convivial fraternal spirit. One rule for them...

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

A really jaundiced , inaccurate , ill informed comment obviously . However unless it escaped your notice , we are not allowed to discuss politics on here . So maybe best to keep your Daily Mirror inspired comments to yourself ?

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Mick82
Mick823 weeks ago

Golfforall what is this topic if not political

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didbygraham
didbygraham3 weeks ago

Golfforall Opinionated yes - but there is nothing that I have stated above that is inaccurate. The Govt did make massive mistakes around nursing homes in particular at the beginning and their policy around mask wearing has been wanting to say the least. This has been well covered by the news. Boris apparently had to be told three times to put a mask on during his visit - again - any normal person would have just worn one from the start. And of course R Rees Moggs comments were well reported at the time he said them. (And I dont read The Mirror!)

I actually agree that the vaccines are the way forward and that the governments around the world need to do more to encourage people to have them and explain how safe they are. I just am not sure I agree that forcing people helps. People have lots of different reasons for not wanting or not trusting the vaccines - describing them as terminally dense wont help anyone.

At the end of the day in this country at the moment health care facilities are just about the only place you can go where pretty much every one will be observing strict distancing, mask wearing, additional hand cleaning and full ppe worn by care givers along with very regular testing.

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SilverSurfer
SilverSurfer3 weeks ago

didbygraham Nothing you have said is inaccurate, the government are part of the problem but sadly you aren't allowed to talk about it and even worse is some people think they have done a good job and are fine to accept the multiple mistakes and lack of care they have shown.

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Aztec
Aztec3 weeks ago

Such a strange requirement, get vaccinated or lose your job, yet the vaccine doesn't actually stop you getting Covid or passing it onto others, also residents in these homes have no obligation to be vaccinated, and could quite easily pass it to the staff, looking after them , but that's is ok.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

I'm afraid you are the best part of a year out of date with the now known benefits of the various vaccines ? Perhaps you should keep abreast of the latest scientific findings re the effect vaccine has on onward transmission of the virus ?

Around 9000 people in the UK are currently hospitalised with COVID ( over 80% of them unvaccinated ) . Are they not taking up valuable hospital beds which would otherwise be free ?

A bit more information for you - Clinical NHS staff Surgeons , Doctors and Nurses have always had to be vaccinated against various things as part of their T@Cs .

The one element you perhaps have correct is that 50% + of "NHS staff " never get within 50 yards of a patient which is why a blanket requirement for all NHS Staff to be vaccinated is difficult to justify .

Care staff , by the very nature of their job , are nearly all required to be in close contact with their very vulnerable charges ?

Hope that helps to explain the "strange requirement " - If you think it through it is just plain sensible !

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davidstockport
davidstockport3 weeks ago

Golfforall If 80% of those hospitalised are unjabbed - and yet a higher percentage of people are actually jabbed. Doesn't that get the message through to those who think the unjabbed should be allowed anywhere near vulnerable, usually elderly, people.

Not suggesting it should happen but what would happen if those who could help themselves by being vaccinated were not allowed the help of those, via hospitalisation, if they needed it. Too many are clogging up our hospitals.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

davidstockport well it was on the BBC News today that Austria is about to introduce a Lockdown for its unvaccinated citizens https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59245018 . The unvaccinated are currently prevented from using restaurants , nightclubs etc and working in various fields as is the case in many other European countries and also the USA .

Sooner or later the terminally dense will actually realise that it isn't a "Government conspiracy " but a plan to keep all of us as safe as possible .

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

Aztec spot on

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Aztec
Aztec3 weeks ago

Golfforall Doesn't explain anything really and figures seem to vary wherever you look so quoting stats is unreliable I'm afraid . The fact is thou Covid jabs do not prevent anyone getting or spreading the virus, so Compulsory jabs for staff are pretty pointless especially as it's not compulsory for residents or visitors in these care homes .

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

Aztec I can only recommend that you keep abreast of the latest scientific commentary (as I sadly do !) .

I'm just a bloke who reads the facts on mainstream news (no wacky websites for me I'm afraid 🙄) .

I would never tell folks what to do or think , just suggest that they avail themselves of the facts available on all mainstream news channels daily .

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RegularComper90
RegularComper903 weeks ago

It's sad that we are losing so many great care workers. And I fully appreciate the hard work that they do.

At the same time, I do think it makes sense that those who are working with the most vulnerable of society are up to date with their vaccinations. Whilst the covid vaccine doesn't stop you from getting covid, it has been proven many times that it greatly reduces the transmission thus helping to protect those around you. It's a shame that those care workers who are scared of the vaccine didn't receive any help and support to help them overcome the fear.

Truth is, no vaccine or medical procedure is guaranteed to be 100% safe. But there has been an awful lot of scaremongering regarding the covid vaccine. Those responsible should be held accountable.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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3 weeks ago

It's comforting to all of us that some of us read the facts . As we all should ?

I'm not saying that we "scapegoat " all those who for various reasons shun the vaccine - but lines have to be drawn , certainly in certain professions .

Education must surely be provided ? for those who cannot or will not take notice of the overwhelming scientific opinion published daily .

I'm afraid ignorance is dangerous (often not the fault of the ignorant ). We only have to look at Holland , Austria etc not too far away to realise that we have to take firmer action .

Don't listen to my opinion - too many nutters on the internet - listen to the BBC ITV etc and make a considered opinion backed by facts ?

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