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Just had a chat with someone who has said that she's taking the kids from South West Wales to see their father in Birmingham.

She reckons that she's been told by the police that it's ok if the father adheres to the Welsh Covid rules.

Is this ok or am I getting a strong smell of BS here?

TheChimp
1 month ago
What do you think of this?
Lynibis
Lynibis1 month ago

It has just been announced that an adult alone in lockdown (with or without kids under 18) can now choose one other household to visit and even stay overnight. They even said this can now apply to living alone adults who can go to one other household for nooky! Make of this what you will!

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TheChimp
TheChimp
Original Poster
1 month ago

Lynibis I did read that, but it's for England only and doesn't apply here in Wales.

We're not supposed to be travelling more than 5 miles without good reason.

I don't know how the father can stick to Welsh rules when they're all going to meet up, which isn't allowed here.

Maybe I'm missing something 🤔

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Lynibis
Lynibis1 month ago

Oh yeh TheChimp I didn't take on board the Welsh rules bit.

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Ann1984
Ann19841 month ago

TheChimp he can come get the kids to stay over but mum can't take them that's picture am getting by this 5 mile rule

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TheChimp
TheChimp
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1 month ago

Ann1984 But the mother is taking the kids to Birmingham from Haverfordwest to go to the father's home.

We're not allowed to do this in Wales.

I reckon that the Old Bill are out of touch with this if they actually said what I was told.

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Ann1984
Ann19841 month ago

TheChimp am in Wales too an no she not allowed we still not allowed to have this bubble nonsense he's talking about. Let her go she get caught its her own fault

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Mango4
Mango41 month ago

Been so many changes and alterations to the rules with so many differences between different parts of the UK I think everyone now is totally confused by whats right and whats not anymore, I honestly don't know what the latest rules are, and even if I did some are law some are just recommendations or advice which confuses things even more, and by this time next week they like as not have changed them again.

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Glitterandgold
Glitterandgold1 month ago

In England, Where parents do not live in the same household, children under 18 can be moved between their parents’ homes.” Don't know if it applies in Wales but might explain why shes been told it's ok.

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

It has been allowed in Wales if the parents live separate and the children are under 18 you can move the children between the 2 even in Wales and past the 5 mile driving limit too.

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TheChimp
TheChimp
Original Poster
1 month ago

emmabeckz And where did you get that information from? Dreamland?

You're obviously not in Wales or are just flouting rules like a load of the cretins in Wales?

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

TheChimp I do live in Wales and fyi I have not even been in a shop since the 20th of March only been out to go to hospital on 1st May when I broke my foot and I don't regard myself as a cretin either thanks all the same.....

Please see FAQ section 4th one down

>> HERE

Oh and here too >> HERE

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Ann1984
Ann19841 month ago

TheChimp emmabeckz is correct if both parents live apart and in Wales that's allowed but going to Birmingham that got to be a no go if not done it at all in lockdown.

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TheChimp
TheChimp
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1 month ago

emmabeckz Please don't think I'm calling you a cretin, but I don't think that you're getting the question 🤔

Was the shop that you went to was in Birmingham?

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

TheChimp No it was in Wales I was getting stuff for my friend and her family who were isolating. The law states that people with shared parental responsibility can travel between the 2 households if children are under 18. It doesn't matter where they live and has always been the case since lockdown. You can also travel to support an elderly or vulnerable relative if there are no alternatives either

>> HERE

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TheChimp
TheChimp
Original Poster
1 month ago

emmabeckz We've still got a different lockdown in Wales and you can't take your kids to see their father in England.

If what you say is the case, Wales might as well stop all lockdown.

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

TheChimp I know the situation as I am living it frustratingly myself. That link and info is taken straight from The Welsh government website. I watch the updates every weekday lunchtime at 12.30 with the hunk that is Mark Drakeford, Ken (Guy Smilie) Skates, Vaughn Gething and Kirsty Williams to name a few....

We are abiding by the 5 mile rule I had a family funeral yesterday that I couldn't attend and have not seen my 74 year old Dad since March 1st the longest since I lived in Oz for 3 years as a teenager as he lives over the border...

You can cross the border for various reasons, work, medical care you cannot get here and supporting vulnerable people and taking children to see another parent. 3 of my friends have been working in England through the whole thing, one is a policeman for Cheshire, one a nurse in Chester and the other a carer in Oswestry so I have done my research honestly

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TheChimp
TheChimp
Original Poster
1 month ago

emmabeckz So I'm right in thinking that travel from SW Wales to Birmingham is not allowed?

I'm confused 🤔

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

TheChimp See 2.1 from the House of Commons - specifically mentions Wales, Ireland and Scotland. They can be "moved" between parents homes...

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TheChimp
TheChimp
Original Poster
1 month ago

emmabeckz Thanks for your advice.

Is there any chance that you could send me a link to the information?

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TheChimp
TheChimp
Original Poster
1 month ago

emmabeckz After looking over the info, no-one should be travelling from SW Wales to Birmingham.

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

TheChimp

it clearly states you can continue existing arrangements

https://gov.wales/coronavirus-regulations-guidance

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so if the arrangements were in place pre lockdown they are allowed. You can’t deprive a child of one parent or the other for this amount of time

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TheChimp
TheChimp
Original Poster
1 month ago

emmabeckz Thanks for that.

That just makes a joke of this whole lockdown thing.

There was no 'existing arrangement' in place, so am I right in thinking that the kids shouldn't be travelling to England?

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

TheChimp I suppose it all comes down to if they get stopped and what is classed as an existing arrangement - it’s a grey area for sure. You would of liked to have thought they would of been going regularly during the last ten weeks if it was for the kids benefit.

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PhilipMarc
PhilipMarc1 month ago

People are so focused on their "lockdown" that they forget what happens out there:

Crime in London hasn't stopped.

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emmabeckz
emmabeckz
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1 month ago

PhilipMarc no it hasn’t stopped, people trying to scam people and pinching stuff out of gardens were I live. Someone had an inflatable hot tub stolen the other day!

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