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Is another pay increase necessary for teachers?

The state of recruitment and retention in England is still critical. Could offering higher salaries help retain teachers in the classroom?

SamGoodship
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Jerseydrew

Most definitely. Not just teachers but support staff. It's a hard job. I work in a school I get sworn at, screamed and shouted ar. Punched, kicked, bitten. Had books, furniture, shoes, scissors thrown at me. Parents are abusive towards us. These are kids as young as 3. Behaviour is getting worse. Cjvid hasn't helped but parenting is worse and parents are expecting schools to do it. Where I am we are having to toilet train kids because parents don't bother. We have to teach kids how to clean their teeth because parents don't teach them. The excuses we are given is ridiculous from fear of water to not liking Toothpaste. I've 9 year old that can't do something basic like take a jumper off so have to teach them because the parents make out they are incapable of doing it. Truth the parents do it for them because they baby them.

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Jerseydrew

It gets to Friday and I'm shattered and drained. I spend my weekend decompressing. I don't have the energy for my own family. People say we need to do things for ourselves. Funny. I go home and sit on the sofa and try and get the energy to make dinner and pretty much go to bed because I don't have the energy for anything else. I'm not a teacher so don't have the planning or parents evening or anything like that. I do however plan interventions for my kids or one to ones. I source resources for school as a whole. This is the first holiday in a long time I've not spent 90% of my time driving round picking up stuff for school. I got a load of books for my readers

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Mango4

Personally no I don't think a pay rise is the answer, cutting the bureaucracy and red tape in the schools, installing better old fashioned discipline and spending on more on the school environment and resources , to make it a much nicer easier place to teach in . I think teachers would likely be happier in their jobs and will stay longer. You actually need to address the problems not just throw higher salaries at people, else as soon as a higher salary becomes available elsewhere they will still go.

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jam45

Mango4 Problem solved! Phew!

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Jerseydrew

Mango4 I do agree with you. The fact that I supply my own resources for kids. Yes it's good for the environment to reuse items but I get things like stickers, stamps for reading homework books and books for my intervention groups. The kids use my rubber that I've brought for work same as sharpener and Colouring pencils. I'm support staff. I couldn't afford to my job if i was single because of how little I earn. I love it and don't mind getting what I do but it's not right and I shouldn't have to

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didbygraham

pay rises are part of the solution, but there needs to be more investment in education all over. No good having better paid teachers if the schools are falling down.

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RegularComper91

Pay rises are like painkillers. It may make the problem more bearable, but it doesn't solve it.

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jms19

Same with a lot of these public service jobs(such as nurses, teachers, police etc) the money is being creamed off by people higher up. I think most workers in this country are probably due a pay increase but that’s not likely to happen

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TheChimp

I'd love to be on a big wage, pension and life assurance and work half a year to look after a few bratty kids.

Have you seen the teachers on things like Come Dine or The Chase? One thought that Portugal was part of Spain. These are the people the youngsters have to listen to.

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Lynibis

TheChimp I remember that. She was so insistent too, no doubt at all that she was maybe wrong. I don't like to slag off a group of people but I am constantly surprised at how thick some teachers are and fear for our kids future. Their spelling and grammar is dreadful.

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Jerseydrew

TheChimp yes there are some teachers I've come across and like how. It's embarrassing. I don't know everything but I don't pretend to and don't answer stuff I know isn't mh strong point. But there's some even if you prove them wrong won't accept it because they are teachers. I've dyscalculia which the maths version of dyslexia.

Having said that it's not a few bratty kids. Read my comments above. If only it were a few bratty kids. But in any other job or if they were adults they would be thrown out, or arrested and banned for the abuse they did out.

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EmmaWright762

I think all workers on a low wage should get better pay and conditions regardless of the job they do. Inflation is a sad joke and trying to buy or keep let alone heat is a nightmare for many

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TheChimp

EmmaWright762 So what is your point?

We're talking about teachers here.

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Pjran

I think they deserve a pay rise. It’s totally wrong that some teachers need to go to food banks.

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BonzoBanana

We are a bankrupt country and I don't see how we can afford any public sector pay rises at the moment. A quick look online shows qualified teachers start at £30k and wages go all the way up to £130k for the highest paid headteachers. As with most public sector jobs the pension is more generous than the private sector typically. I never understand why pay has such extremes. Call me mad but I would of thought pay for a top headteacher should be around £60-70k not £130k. I think the minimum wage is about £15k a year.

A quick look at US headteachers shows about a wage of maybe $50k or less than £40k and nowadays some costs in the US are comparable to the UK and some even more like rent and food costs in many areas.

www.talent.com/salary?job=head%20teacher.

The industry has gone that created the wealth that enabled us to be more generous with public sector wages.

We need to start getting realistic about the economic health of the country. Everyone wants more money but in the private sector people realise it has to be earnt by the success of the company they work for. Public sector workers just seem to expect to be paid much more than the private sector and have better conditions and pensions too.

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