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So I have a sister who’s just turned 12 and it’s not like a long time ago where any toy will make them happy now they like more grown up things and stuff like that any ideas for gifts her age since the holidays are coming up?
Johnny she is just turned 12 (so recently 11) so nowhere near a teen and is far too young for make up.
I had to supervise a parent child contact once and the child looked about 17 although I knew she couldn't be more than 16 as supervision not needed by then
It turned out she was 13! I can't tell you how sick it made me feel to see grown men leering at her everywhere we went. Thick eyeliner, false eyelashes, and face plastered, yuck. Why do we allow our kids to lose their innocence so young?
Ann1984 yes but parents should still parent and stop it before it starts. If you can't exercise authority when they are 13 what hope is there at 15/16. Why are parents so scared of laying down the law to kids these days and more or less let them be adults by the age of 14. When things go wrong they want nothing more than mummy or daddy to sort things out and they cannot cope with adulthood emotionally or physically. Too much trying to be their kids friend instead of parent, there to guide, protect, teach and discipline and love.
No wonder they are being labelled snowflakes.
So many parents seem to have lost the plot whilst they vie with partners to have the upper hand.
Lynibis i can say am my kids parents not friends and they know. Do something wrong and i chop their hands off. My son ran up a phone bill he paid the price by having to sell some of is stuff to pay it back. I have stopped daughter hanging out with certain groups because of their behaviour and so my son and they hate it at start but then come back and say thank you i could have ended up like them. Sometimes just need trust
Ann1984 I have seen from previous posts how seriously you take your parental responsibilities. I guess my attitude has been coloured by my job. Working with kids whose parents are addicts, abusive or just plain incompetent, so kids get taken away from them, has made me into a cross and angry person.
It took a lot of hard work to be a single mum to two boys. We had our share of problems but pleased they are both well rounded family men, good fathers and in first, and so far, only marriages, one of 24 years, the other 15 years.
I may not have been blessed with a good marriage but my family are the sunshine of my life.
Lynibis my mother didnt buy me make up until I was 16! Even then it was mascara and blusher and that was all I was allowed. I wasn't allowed make up to school, only to wear a little eyeshadow and mascara for the Christmas dances and not before I was 15. I didn't wear foundation till I was 19. My mother never wore make up on a daily basis, apart from lipstick. The last time I wore make up was to a friends wedding 3 years ago and even then it was subtle. I see so many teenagers wearing false eyelashes, plastered in make up, some of the 2nd years (12 or 13) look about 16! I understand that they have an interest in make up, which is fine, but I don't think it is for school, certainly not when they are so young.
MrsCraig thought maybe I was unreasonable, times changing etc so lovely to read your post, especially being so much younger than me.
It is not make up itself I am against but that girls can look so much older when they wear too much and it makes them prey to all manner of unwanted (or sometimes wanted) attention. Girls masquerading as women is confusing to everyone, often males are unaware of the true age.
I agree about school too. It is for study not showing off. No make up, no jewellery (just studs in pierced ears) and certainly no phones. Until we bring back discipline and stop being fearful of it's use we are losing and I don't mean discipline that causes fear or abuse. Just boundaries and rules, with consequences.
Lynibis These days kids are wearing makeup at a much younger age...
As you say they generally look pretty awful, but becoming proficient with make-up takes several years practise! It's up to the parents when (and where) they allow the kids to wear it.
The Age When British Girls Start Wearing Makeup Will Surprise You (Marie Clair article)
And should kids be given 'what they want' even if it is not good for them? See my comment above to understand why I say that.
Mick82 Perhaps you could have said what James Charles make up was used for and then I wouldn't have assumed it was just 'make up'. It's good that your niece has a career focus at 13 but I'm sorry I can't agree with "they are given what they want", in life this is not always possible.
lilyflower they are learnt all about how hard life is they do there chors they get great grades in school so when its time for gifts they get what they ask for why would they not they are realistic they don't ask for £1000 phones
Johnny I meant studying their schoolwork for their future rather than following, training for a career in make up for tv, that's not being a kid. Rather it is thrust into an adult world too soon. Allowing kids to be kids in my book is playing games, lego, dolls and reading for pleasure etc. Don't know if you have any daughters Johnny and although I have never disagreed with you before I can't believe a responsible father would want to see a 12 year old caked with make up looking 16/17.
Mick82 it is NOT playing. Dressing up and slapping on lipstick and mummy's high heels in pre puberty is playing. Applying make up after puberty is trying to look older. I was a young girl once and know exactly how their minds work when trying to attract male attention from that age onwards. I find it strange that men feel this is ok.
However, I am glad you added the last sentence as that does make a big difference.
Mick82 that's going too far to win an argument and your comment is disgusting. I was never allowed out with or without make up on and up until I started work at 16 was still having to go to bed at 9pm.
My first boyfriend became my husband and I am proud to have 'saved myself'. That was in 1971 when most young women behaved themselves sexually. Please don't ever comment on mine ever again that was extremely offensive
Mick82 You are very fortunate that you can give them what they ask for, I was never in that position. As a child I might have asked but it was never or very rarely given. As a parent I was never able to give everything they asked for.
Mick82 Ok mr angry. I don't hate you, just said you were very fortunate that you could, LOTS of people can't.
lilyflower possibly, like you I was brought up in a time when kids were happier, healthier and didn't need to receive a lot to be happier. My parents favourite saying was 'I want doesn't get'. Something today's kids could benefit greatly from.
Mick82 disagreeing with someone doesn't warrant insults! Maybe if you worked with sexually abused kids, one only 3, you might understand where I am coming from.
My kids had a happy healthy well balanced life, did badly at school but both extremely well off in their 40s. They received gifts we knew they wanted rather than what they asked for which was usually a passing fad.
Talk about making assumptions yours were breathtaking!
The life lesson is: we don't always get what we want in life and kids should be aware that some parents overstretched themselves at Xmas in order to not disappoint.
Lynibis if you think it doesn't warrant insults you should read trough your posts belittling anyone who dare disagree with you i posted a response to someone and you thought you knew better because you think you are better I was not looking at augmented or debate ps not every kid is abused so why treat them like they are ridiculous argument.
Baking gifts maybe, you can get some ’bake your own rainbow cake’ sets that look good, also cinnamon bun baking kits etc
I think some perfume, and bath stuff will be great.Maybe some watch and jewellery ,girls in this age already loves Pandora.
Wow lots of comments on this. Maybe just ask her a list of what she'd like and pick one? That's what I do with my teenage goddaughter
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