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Does Lewis Hamilton Deserve to Be Knighted ?

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Ive seen in the news this week that people asking if Lewis Hamilton winning so many world championships in formula 1 does he deserve a knighthood ?

stuartsmith544
26 days ago
What do you think of this?
TheChimp
TheChimp26 days ago

If you were in a car competition and you were given a Mini and the other person was given a Porsche, who would win?

He deserves NOTHING.

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blacklabrador
blacklabrador26 days ago

In which case why isn't Valtteri Bottas more competitive in the same car? or Nico Rosberg before him?

I think it's around a 60/40 split, with 60% being the superior car and 40% being down to the driver.

As for a knighthood? Not for me - He avoided paying tax on a private jet by setting up a company that leased the jet to himself.

He also lives in Monaco, meaning he pays no UK tax.

Maybe Monaco would like to award him something since that's where he calls home.

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hutchinsonk246
hutchinsonk24625 days ago

blacklabrador Lewis Hamilton still pays UK income Tax and he is actually in the top 5000 people in the UK. So the haters saying โ€heโ€™s not paying taxโ€œ is actually factually incorrect . If that is basis of your argument?? Explain why is Dyson, Branston and Ratcliffe all been Knighted?

Look at this in sporting terms, would you say Wiggins, Murray, Farrah and Cook for Christโ€™s sake, the greatest ever in their sports?? Not even in the top 10 each of them. As where LH is defo the greatest of

his generation and arguably of all time.

In the Turbo Hybrid era, Mercedes have been the best team, but in 2018 Ferrari and Red Bull had championship winning cars and the 2019 Ferrari was a dominant, the faster car!!! (Lewis would have won in them both).

Lewis is a marmite figure, personally I love his speed, race craft and talent, but look at his records, people should be proud to have a British Driver at the very top!!

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TheChimp
TheChimp24 days ago

hutchinsonk246 None of the people you have quoted should have been knighted.

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Lynibis
Lynibis26 days ago

In my humble opinion only those who have contributed their time and efforts in the service of their fellow humans should be awarded gongs. Why should someone who has become a millionaire for being successful in a sport or venture they love become a Sir?

Maybe he has done this, I haven't a clue.

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BORDERJOE
BORDERJOE25 days ago

I agree with you Lynibis ... I always used to assume that if you got a 'gong' then you'd done something special/caring/generous for others ... I can't get my head around the famous personality thing

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Mick82
Mick8226 days ago

He might be but first he should start paying tax in this country

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davidstockport
davidstockport26 days ago

Apparently he does pay tax in this country, he also donates large amounts to charities (not just in this country), he probably gets tax relief on his charity donations (we all can).

https://www.totalgiving.co.uk/charity/lewis-hamilton-foundation

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Mick82
Mick8225 days ago

Avoiding paying tax for years is a resident of Switzerland he may pay some but not what he should davidstockport

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BORDERJOE
BORDERJOE25 days ago

davidstockport it's interesting about the charity donations but I still reckon the awards should be for selflessness/generosity in time and effort etc rather than cash....not saying I'm right but that's how I feel at the mo.

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davidstockport
davidstockport25 days ago

Mick82 Have you any evidence that he does not pay what he should? I can't find any nor apparently can HMRC. From what I have read he pays tax in many countries. (not unusual when a person earns money in several different countries).

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Mick82
Mick8224 days ago

davidstockport I don't come on hear to argue with you in have read and watched many articles and programmes and I am stating my opinion you don't like it don't read it and get a life.

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davidstockport
davidstockport24 days ago

Mick82 I am very sorry, I didn't realise you had information that you're not allowed to share with us. Asking a person to supply their source of information isn't arguing, it's giving them the chance to strengthen their accusation, You said he doesn't pay the tax "he should" inferring he is guilty of tax evasion.

Incidentally a possible "typo" (is instead of as) might have caused misunderstanding, wrongly implying he is a resident of Switzerland, that changed quite some time ago. The last I heard his main home is in Monaco.

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Mick82
Mick8224 days ago

davidstockport the information you seek is available for anyone to find if you lack the intellectual capabilities to find it for yourself that is not my problem as for where he resides at this moment in time it really could be anywhere he can afford it on account of all that tax money he did not pay

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davidstockport
davidstockport24 days ago

Mick82 It is you who are making the ACCUSATION therefore it is you who should back up your ACCUSATION with some evidence. You are obviously not too up to date with your information if you think his official residence is Switzerland. I don't even follow F1 but knew it was Monaco. I would think anyone with intellectual capabilities would have checked such facts before posting. (or admitted their mistake after).๐Ÿ˜€

Just to avoid confusion Tax Avoidance is perfectly acceptable and legal - Tax Evasion isn't.

I do not have any PROOF he doesn't pay the tax he should - and those who have no PROOF that he doesn't shouldn't infer he doesn't without providing some PROOF (not opinion).

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Mick82
Mick8224 days ago

davidstockport you seem to get a little bit worked up at very little in will if you like it or not say what I feel on this topic or any other tax avoidance may well be legal but to knight someone they should be a example to other people how many life's could the NHS have saved how many fire engines how many school dinners could that money have bought just because something is legal dose not make it right we will never agree on this so either deal with that or see a doctor he will put you in touch with someone who will help with your many issues. Ps in will not be responding to you in have better things to do. ๐Ÿ‘‹

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laraquinn
laraquinn26 days ago

Nah.I'm not saying he should never be Knighted, but it feels way too soon.

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Pjran
Pjran26 days ago

Lots of sportsmen and women are given titles once theyโ€™ve achieved a high standard or gold medals. Not sure Hamilton deserves it as he resides in Monaco and no longer a British tax payer.

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AgnesFaludi
AgnesFaludi25 days ago

I think the doctor who save lives to be knighted...

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sunny101
sunny10125 days ago

AgnesFaludi My feelings exactly!

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TractorGirl327
TractorGirl32725 days ago

No. He's a conceited b-word, thinks the world should be praising him just because he's black.

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Getsome
Getsome25 days ago

Nope and a lot more other people who would be worthy in the current times not a F1 driver.

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Getsome
Getsome25 days ago

Also far too many people end up with knighthoods and don't deserve it

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Johnny
Johnny25 days ago

I've no idea, but it's worth thinking about the criteria for a knighthood or damehood before making your mind up about Lewis Hamilton.

A knighthood or damehood can be presented for all types of different achievement, but usually the person nominated will have made a major contribution to the country at a national or international level; their work and achievements will be viewed as an inspiration to others; and they may have influenced their peers, industry or the nation through their sustained and outstanding commitment to their chosen area.

Source: https://www.awardsintelligence.co.uk/

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kfe202
kfe20225 days ago

Johnny, you're so good to give us the criteria for a knighthood or damehood. Let's have a look.

A knighthood or dame hood can be presented for all kinds of different achievement. This suggests that F1 qualifies.

Usually the person nominated will have made a major contribution to the country at a national or international level. Lewis has won a world championship 7 or 8 times now and represents the UK at venues all around the world. Check.

Their work will be viewed as an inspiration to others. Lewis is viewed as an inspiration by millions of sports fans all around the world and as a role model by some. So that's a tick.

May have influenced their peers, or industry or the nation through their sustained and outstanding commitment to their chosen area. Lewis has influenced his industry to start showing that F1 is anti-racism and values all people. He has influenced his peers by pushing people like Bottas and Verstappen to want to beat him and by pushing his engineers and mechanics to be the best they can be. And he has caused other people to respect the UK every time he stands on the top step of a podium.

Hmmm. The rules don't mention being a nice guy, paying taxes in this country or having a particular colour of skin. So why haven't they knighted him yet??

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Johnny
Johnny24 days ago

Thanks for that.

From what you've said, it certainly looks like Lewis Hamilton meets the criteria to be considered for a knighthood.

He can join Sir Stirling Moss and Sir Jackie Stewart.

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kfe202
kfe20224 days ago

Johnny You're so right - it does look that way. You're so right too that Hamilton should join the ranks of Sir Stirling Moss and Sir Jackie Stewart. Neither Moss nor Stewart have as many wins as Hamilton does.

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TraceyMinister
TraceyMinister25 days ago

No

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ACR
ACR25 days ago

He has achieved more in his chosen sport than many others that have already received a knighthood. Plus, his campaigning for BLM will make him a likely candidate in the next honours list ๐ŸŽ๏ธ

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tumblespots
tumblespots24 days ago

I don't think anyone should be knighted, it is an outdated concept.

Why does anyone want to be 'rewarded' for being good. People should just be good or do good things anyway.

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TheChimp
TheChimp24 days ago

tumblespots I agree

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kfe202
kfe20224 days ago

You're making me think ๐Ÿ˜€ You're so right that people should just be good or do good things without any expectation of reward. The trouble with that, though, is that many people don't do good without expecting a reward. Human nature. And by knighting people or giving other gongs such as medals, we hold up people who are doing good as examples for others to follow. You make an interesting point that knighting people might be outdated. What would you suggest we replace it with?

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tumblespots
tumblespots24 days ago

kfe202 Nothing, as it just perpetuates the class system, and encourages some people to think that they are better than others. Don't forget that there are plenty of people who do a great deal of good and are never rewarded. My grandmother was once invited to meet Princess Anne due to her good works but grandma felt she hadn't done any extraordinary, or indeed deserving, and didn't go. You can be good without wanted recognition. If you are doing it for the recognition then you are doing it for the wrong reasons.

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Imnotcheap
Imnotcheap24 days ago

Has he done anything notable apart from being good at his chosen job? Lots of people can legitimately claim that

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