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Extending the School Day and Changing Summer Holidays

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I've read in The Sun this morning that ministers are considering extending the school day and changing the summer holidays. Apparently, MPs want volunteers to teach after school classes for children. What do you all think of this?

iamleo
25 days ago
What do you think of this?
Pjran
Pjran25 days ago

Poor teachers will have to supervise the volunteers. Teachers are expected to do so much with not a great salary so extending their working hours is unreasonable. Yes I know you said volunteers but Iā€™m sure all headmasters will insist on a teacher being present.

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iamleo
iamleo
Original Poster
25 days ago

Pjran i agree.

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Grannyclock
Grannyclock25 days ago

If primary children are working hard they will be exhausted by 3.30 so Iā€™m not sure the extra lessons will achieve a lot!

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iamleo
iamleo
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25 days ago

Grannyclock yeah, i was thinking about this too. they'd all be asleep! šŸ˜‚

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx25 days ago

Think its all wrong its not the kids fault what's happening

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iamleo
iamleo
Original Poster
25 days ago

Leeann exactly! kids should be doing home learning anyway so it's not like they're missing out on a lot of learning.

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sunny101
sunny10125 days ago

I can't see how it would work. As mentioned earlier, the children would be tired and well past the window of learning capability. Unless they brought retired staff in, with up-to-date CRBs it would be very costly. It could be carried out by HLTAs but it would still need some supervision.

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Imnotcheap
Imnotcheap25 days ago

This is unfair on the teachers and pupils. My kids are doing a full day school now. Obviously I'm not doing as good a job helping as a teacher would be we doing our best. As I said elsewhere out of 59 reception children 5 read the books school gave them on the internet. Too many children are not being homeschooled. I don't know what every school is like but the teachers at my kids schools are doing all they can to help parents so the kids are still learning

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Grannyclock
Grannyclock25 days ago

Maybe a good idea for the ones who are going on to do A levels etc as they will have missed a lot of the GCSE syllabus.

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angelik
angelik25 days ago

I don't know that this is the answer, but they are going to have to do something to help children catch up with their education. It's sad how so many parents are neglecting their child's/children's education during this time, with many not bothering with homeschooling at all. And some schools really aren't doing enough to help either.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx25 days ago

angelik I disagree there my daughter school is doing a lot they phone me everyweek to ask how we are getting on like I said its not the kids fault this it all happening and yet there the ones who are gonna get punished either way

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iamleo
iamleo
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25 days ago

Leeann my son's school does this too

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angelik
angelik25 days ago

Leeann I did not say all schools were not doing enough, just some schools. I'm pleased that your daughter's school is doing what they should, but you only have to look at comments from parents online to know that not all schools are responding that way.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx25 days ago

angelik that maybe so but its not the schools fault either they didn't know this was coming no one did so there trying to do what they can

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iamleo
iamleo
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25 days ago

angelik according to the government's website it's a requirements for schools to offer at least 3 hours of remote learning a day, depending on your child's age. if the school isn't offering this, maybe you could try the oak national academy website? they've got loads of lessons which follow the national curriculum.

"The amount of remote education should be a minimum of:

key stage 1 ā€“ 3 hours a day, on average across the cohort, with fewer hours for younger children

key stage 2 ā€“ 4 hours a day

key stages 3 and 4 ā€“ 5 hours a day"

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iamleo
iamleo
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25 days ago
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Leannexxx
Leannexxx25 days ago

iamleo that's a good idea will have a look at that myself

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iamleo
iamleo
Original Poster
25 days ago

Leeann yeah it's a great site

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angelik
angelik25 days ago

iamleo I'm talking about schools in general, not a specific school or my personal experience. You only have to look at discussions online to see there are many unhappy parents in terms of what their child's school is doing during this time. Some schools have responded extremely well, doing all they can to help children and parents- but some have not. Some parents are doing all they can to help their child continue their education- but some are not. It's a sad situation, as some children are going to get so far behind with their education, it's going to be difficult to catch back up.

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Imnotcheap
Imnotcheap25 days ago

My kids schools are being very helpful we interact daily on internet and via email Leeann

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx25 days ago

angelik there gonna be unhappy they have there kids home lol all day it drives me mad at times but its what's got to be done they can't win they close because people wasn't happy they was open and now they want them open again

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx25 days ago

Imnotcheap its good to hear that I honestly can't say anything about my daughters school they really have tried hard to make sure all the kids are doing good

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louthegameboy
louthegameboy25 days ago

This is so unfair for the kids

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iamleo
iamleo
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25 days ago

louthegameboy i agree!

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RegularComper90
RegularComper9025 days ago

Just shorten the summer holidays to something like 3 or 4 weeks. There is no need to have a whole 6 weeks off.

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iamleo
iamleo
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25 days ago

RegularComper90 most children have been working hard and doing their work at home though. is it fair to take away their summer holidays when they've done everything they were supposed to? most children have been working hard this year and they've had the fear of going to school during a pandemic - some of them have even lost loved ones. i feel like their 6 weeks off would be well deserved.

teachers have also been working extremely hard and it's unfair to shorten their time off by 2-3 weeks.

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RegularComper90
RegularComper9024 days ago

iamleo I understand what you are saying, and I do fully appreciate all the hard work that both teachers and children have done throughout this whole thing. But on the other hand, teachers are no more special than many other essential workers; such as NHS staff, retail workers, bus/train drivers, post men/women, food delivery drivers and many others. Would they not deserve a 6 week break also?

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Ann1984
Ann198424 days ago

RegularComper90 a teacher of ours in family have said she would like this to happen because at moment they working more hours then were in school. Preparing work every evening for next day, chasing parents with kids not engaging not getting time to them self. When were in class room is easier so she happy to lose 2 weeks summer and move 1 week Easter and another at Xmas

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iamleo
iamleo
Original Poster
24 days ago

RegularComper90 yeah, I get what you're saying - they all deserve a break.

i doubt many children would be happy with losing 2-3 weeks of their summer holidays, but if it means they could get better opportunities in life, maybe it would be worth it.

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stuartsmith544
stuartsmith54425 days ago

I would certainly extend the school times, I think as well each year should have there school lives extended by 1year at the very minimum so with the maybe altering the holidays this would really give them as good a chance as possible and sack Gavin Williamson for being the worse education minister in living memory .

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx24 days ago

stuartsmith544 I disagree these kids have worked hard in or out of school they have put up with it all so no i think they should go back to school like normal and have holidays this is none of there faults people moaned that the schools was kept open and they closed them now there moaning that kids need to be back in because they have missed out on so much these kids can't win so I know make it just that bit worst for them

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iamleo
iamleo
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24 days ago

Leeann i agree. my son does nearly 6 hours a day of home learning 5 days a week. he has worked so hard this year and even with the fear of catching covid he has continued to try his best. it's unfair to take away their summer holidays because the government failed to control the pandemic properly.

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iamleo
iamleo
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24 days ago

stuartsmith544 i only agree with the sacking gavin williamson bit. he failed to get any proper online education to children during the first lockdown and some children are still going without adequate remote learning. he has also continued to say that schools are safe and he still wanted them to stay open when we had 50000 cases and 1000 deaths a day. he doesn't care about children or education. one of the main reason schools have remained open is so that parents can go to work. the government even admitted that on a page somewhere on their website. they don't care about the health of our children, teachers, etc.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx24 days ago

iamleo yeah that's all it is oh and coz kids don't get as ill with covid so its ok if they get it they forget to tell people that children have been very ill with covid some can't get out of bed for months after having it

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iamleo
iamleo
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24 days ago

Leeann yeah. a lot of doctors in the us have also warned that covid causes heart damage for children. if a school cannot stop a cold spreading, they obviously cannot stop covid from spreading.

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eyeballkerry
eyeballkerry24 days ago

Before all of this I used to home school my children. Maybe I was lucky that I could do that.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx24 days ago

eyeballkerry ill be home schooling when my daughter goes into high school and its not because of covid this was planned when I was pregnant

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eyeballkerry
eyeballkerry24 days ago

It a great idea and both of you will get so much out of it.

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