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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/woman-punched-in-face-for-speaking-spanish-in-suspected-racist-attack-on-overground-train-a3972386.html

Not sure how someone in London can get around without coming across people of all walks of life - I love the diversity, so it’s sad to hear there are some others who are still offended by it

hspexy
5 months ago
What do you think of this?
Lynibis
Lynibis5 months ago

As far as I am concerned society/human beings,despite our technological progress, have not moved on in regards to violence and hate. All over the world right now atrocities are being committed that were just as bad as anything you could find in the Roman/Medieval etc. era.

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hspexy
hspexy
Original Poster
5 months ago

Agreed. Tbh I think it’s very much in the human make up to have some kind of blood thirst, so just like the gladiator days where humans enjoyed watching people being slaughtered for pleasure, we too are enjoying this kind of sport today (in the forms of reality TV!)

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Rockman
Rockman4 months ago

For it to be considered a "racist" attack it would require that the two were from different races but that's not mentioned so it's possible they were both Europeans. English and Spanish are after all European languages and these folks are residing in Britain.

Racist? No. Hate crime? Yes.

People don't realize that calling everything "racist" just devalues the word and then no one takes it seriously.

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hspexy
hspexy
Original Poster
4 months ago

It is a shame that society is very much moving towards a blame culture, so when bad things happen, people do immediately attribute it to something obvious, so it can be gender, colour of skin, sexual preference...but in this particular case, I would say it is a racially aggravated assault, as the attack was made by someone who did not like the foreign language he was hearing

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deepcore
deepcore4 months ago

Agreed, it's an attack with a racist element due to the foreign language as hspexy mentioned above.

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Rockman
Rockman4 months ago

deepcore I suppose it's technically a foreign language since it's in another country, but not a different continent.

Just remembered that something similar happened in Pasadena about a month ago.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/18/walmart-worker-to-customer-speak-english-since-were-in-texas/

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deepcore
deepcore4 months ago

Rockman However, if we are to go further into semantics, telling someone off for speaking Spanish in England is not directly racism but is linguistic discrimination.

After thinking about it, calling this situation racism isn't entirely accurate so I agree with you there that we shouldn't use the "race" card all the time.

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Rockman
Rockman4 months ago

deepcore Well, we're kind of past the point when what should be called and shouldn't be "racism" since the word has been so overused that it raises an eyebrow and I don't even trust articles or people who use it, till I check it out for myself. It's nothing against whomever, I just like to do my own research on stuff.

Never thought I'd use a Anita Sarkeesian video to make a point. 😆

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JandE86
JandE864 months ago

2yrs and 3months: this how long ive been here in uk.. In our subject curriculum at school. english is taught to us since first day we enter school but is more based on American English.. in my stay here I've learned loads of words that are expressed differently.. I've experienced some being a "snob" probably because of my accent and the way I speak..

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hspexy
hspexy
Original Poster
4 months ago

I'm sorry to hear that, and it is always a shame when negative experiences seems to take precedence over the positive ones you may get when you live in another country.

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deepcore
deepcore4 months ago

I'm born and bred here and I agree some British people have some sort of superiority complex we call the "stiff upper lip". Not saying everyone does but you do notice it. With the younger generation racism is not so bad in my experience.

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hspexy
hspexy
Original Poster
4 months ago

deepcore I guess each generation has had their own experiences to deal with, and your outlook on life is very much shaped by what you see, what you hear, what you are taught. Not everyone can be taught to change, as some people are simply resistant to acknowledging the facts around them. All you can account for is how you react to people who are like that, and what the experience has taught you in how you go about your life

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deepcore
deepcore4 months ago

hspexy I find the older generation much more "prejudice" compared to the younger generation of the past 20 to 30 years. No offence, this is just my experience being born and bred here.

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hspexy
hspexy
Original Poster
4 months ago

deepcore they grew up in very different times, and older generations in general were not well integrated with other cultures - you had to be very wealthy to travel back in the days, and even then it was acceptable to behave in ways that are no longer permitted today. As long as the younger generations understand the error of their predecessors' ways, then that is an improvement for mankind

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RegularComper90
RegularComper904 months ago

Apart from self defence, there is never any excuse for this sort of violence.

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