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Good News Monday ! Pfizer Appear to Have a Successful COVID Vaccine !

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Definite positive , though not quite over the hill yet . That's why the worlds Stockmarkets have risen 5% in the last hour .

Cause for cautious optimism , you'll hear lots more about it during the day , I'm sure.

Golfforall
23 days ago
What do you think of this?
Golfforall
Golfforall
Original Poster
23 days ago

Probably why Boris is having a News conference at 1700 - Great news to share ! Will make a change from the normal .

Follow the rules for another couple of months and maybe we could be through the worst .

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Imnotcheap
Imnotcheap23 days ago

Will have to watch that hope it's on time messed up my Halloween plans for kids waiting on last one

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

Pfizer CEO has just given a long interview on Bloomberg , sounds very positive . 90% effective in a trial of 43,500 worldwide . UK already has 30 million doses ordered.

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lcook90
lcook9023 days ago

Not sure how I feel about a vaccine. Given they usually test drugs for years before administering them to the general population. Who knows the long term effects??

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tumblespots
tumblespots23 days ago

I agree, who knows what side effects those that get inoculated will get and whether they will ultimately regret it!

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tscebraz
tscebraz23 days ago

Yeah I'm very unsure about it, more so if it takes years to sort a vaccine on other stuff, how come it's taken months? Annoying as well that money can be thrown at this pandemic but surely Cancer needs the same investment

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

tscebraz Billions are also being spent on Cancer , but its a much tougher nut to crack . This one was slightly easier as it has similarities to work already being done for many years on flu and the common cold, so a lot they could read across .

Having said that we aren't there yet but at least there is room for hope

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ukheather
ukheather23 days ago

The jab only gives 90% immunity for 28 days btw

They ordered 30mil doses

UK population was 66mil in 2019 so they would only be able to treat specific people and then it would only last for a month

Even with the jab, it is still a long way off being over with.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
Original Poster
23 days ago

Need a course of 2 jabs 3 weeks apart . Obviously no one knows yet how long the immunity will last (at least 6 months from the trials ) . And 90% is exceptional - current normal flu jabs are only 60% -70% effective (and have been around that figure for years ).

It may or may not be the "silver bullet" but the best vaccine news since the virus appeared .

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Getsome
Getsome23 days ago

I hope that the 30 million doses will be done properly and given to high risk and healthcare workers first then general public then government/entitled older generation.

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stew45
stew4523 days ago

Fingers crossed before we all end up going mad stuck at home.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

Obviously not there yet , but light at the end of the tunnel . All the more reason to keep obeying the current rules .

Don't want to infect another million folk (many of whom won't survive ) when the vaccine could be with us in 2 or 3 months and protect us all eventually .

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vicky13
vicky1323 days ago

No thank you. I've already been warned by a&e I'm a high chance of needing serious help if I caught it. But I'd rather take my chance with the virus then have the side effects of the vaccine, like I did when I ended up in a&e from the flu vaccine this year. 👎

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MillieWalsh
MillieWalsh23 days ago

They have a vaccine but tell us that the antibodies in ur body only live a few months. Dont think i will be trusting the vaccine

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

Ok I'll have your dose .

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TheChimp
TheChimp23 days ago

Golfforall Want to share it? Half each?

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

TheChimp Plenty of anti vax refuseniks on here , we'll have theirs .

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TheChimp
TheChimp23 days ago
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gerrykelly25
gerrykelly2523 days ago

Golfforall I don’t assume they are ‘anti vaxers’ per se, just concerned that this new vaccine is being rushed in with very little advance trial or research on longer term effects.

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EmptySeas
EmptySeas23 days ago

You beat me to it, Golfforall! 😂

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lcook90
lcook9023 days ago

I'm not an anti vaxer... lol. I have my flu jab every year. Just concerned about the long term side effects of this. Being only 30.... hopefully I have a lot of my life to live.. I would not want a negative effect from this new vaccine. They haven't been able to successfully vaccinate against SARS, but now able to against COVID? Which is a strain of SARS? I'm just cautious. Not an "anti vaxer"

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

lcook90 You are in the last age group eligible to receive the vaccine according to the Government list https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-54880084 .

By that time ( I would estimate Summer 2020 for your age group ) tens of millions in the UK and hundreds of millions worldwide will have had the vaccine . We should know much more about the efficacy of this vaccine by then (and the many others ) and indeed more about COVID itself . Perhaps that would be a better time to make your decision ?

Of course the vaccine (or the others being developed ) may not be the "silver bullet " after all . But by the time it comes to your turn to choose there should be a lot more information about the downsides (if any ) of the vaccine and the effects of "Long COVID " even in younger people .

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lcook90
lcook9023 days ago

Golfforall I am asthmatic, so would assume I would be eligible for it earlier.

I was thinking more long term then a few months. when you think about other vaccines they are developed and tested on much longer periods.

again i am not saying i would not get one and i will make my decision when more information becomes available. I am just cautious and considering the cons that could be possible.

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lcook90
lcook9023 days ago

Golfforall https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54027269 on here it states vulnerable groups will also be first offered

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

lcook90 Sorry I didn't know you were in a vulnerable group .Just made my comment on your age group . If the vaccine is approved best to have a conversation with your GP . I understand why you have concerns about long term effects (as we all do ) .

There's no right decision it'll be a question of risk versus reward and that will vary for us all . I am fairly confident that we have learnt from the last major drugs disaster (Thalidomide in the 1960s ).

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lucyhea
lucyhea23 days ago

Not sure I'd feel comfortable getting the vaccine. They would normally take years testing to get it right. Whos to say there wouldnt be a dodgy batch 🤷‍♀️

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shirleywylde
shirleywylde23 days ago

Hope they can start the vaccine program soon will definitely have it .

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

Still a few hurdles but if no setbacks could be ready for health/ care workers by January , oldies in February and all of us in March .

By no means a certainty but least a light at the end of the tunnel and there's another 20 or so alternative vaccines in the trials pipeline from other companies .

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HollyDobson
HollyDobson23 days ago

I'll not be getting it not will my kids. Time to wake up people.

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JeanHudson41751
JeanHudson4175123 days ago

we're going over the hill with a toot toot waiting for the train to arrive and open it's doors what a load of bull

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Padraig
Padraig23 days ago

Johnson will probably be pushing it since he and his administration have made such a pigs ear of the pandemic (and everything else).

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TheChimp
TheChimp23 days ago

Padraig No politics here, please.

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Padraig
Padraig23 days ago

TheChimp Not your place to be a censor, now is it. Of course it’s political.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

Padraig Can't recall which way the virus (which is killing millions of people worldwide ) voted in the last election ?

Of course its totally apolitical - just the extreme left wing in Britain trying to make it political (with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight ).

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TheChimp
TheChimp23 days ago

Padraig You are bringing up politics on here which isn't allowed.

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Freeme
Freeme23 days ago

A flu vaccine actually give the person a mild flu, so its not effective so if Covid vaccine works the same way, well no, how about side affects, has anyone read about human trial results, don't trust big Pharma companies. They can't be trusted with our lives, they've already caused us to loose our jobs, business and our freedom.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
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23 days ago

Is this Latest Deals or Latest Loony Conspiracy Theories ?

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TheChimp
TheChimp23 days ago

Freeme The flu vaccine does not give anyone a mild flu, there is no active virus in it.

It looks like you've been listening to absolute BS on Facebook and the like.

If you don't know what you're talking about, please keep it real.

Have you been smoking the same stuff as PhilipMarc?

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KarryannWilson
KarryannWilson23 days ago

The flu vaccine isn’t live so no flu given that’s why I can have it

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Ann1984
Ann198423 days ago

We all had flu jabs last Sunday sore arm for a day that was about it and was first time having it

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Freeme
Freeme20 days ago

TheChimp. The flu shot works by introducing your body to tiny little parts of different flu viruses. This triggers a reaction from your immune system — the processes in your body that fight off infection. Your immune system realizes these virus fragments shouldn't be in your body, and figures out how to destroy them.

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TheChimp
TheChimp20 days ago

Freeme Yes, but it's DEAD parts.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here.

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Freeme
Freeme20 days ago

TheChimp. Live attenuated influenza vaccines (LAIV) is made from attenuated, or weakened, viruses and does not cause influenza, although it can cause mild signs or symptoms (including rhinorrhoea, nasal congestion, fever or sore throat). Most common side effects from the vaccine are mild and transient compared to symptoms of influenza infection.

Source WHO website.

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Getsome
Getsome20 days ago

Freeme The flu vaccine cannot give you flu

None of the flu vaccines contains live viruses so they cannot cause flu.

If you are unwell after vaccination, you may have something else. Or you may have caught flu before your vaccination had worked.

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TheChimp
TheChimp20 days ago

Freeme Source link please

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Lynibis
Lynibis20 days ago

Freeme I am late 60s and had my 3rd yearly jab today. I have never even had a sore arm.

Btw in my job before retired in 2011, we were warned there would be a pandemic in 2008 and began training and preparations. I doubt very much the search for a vaccine only started this year but has rather followed on from previous studies and work.

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LisaLee31737
LisaLee3173723 days ago

Fantastic news for all the mps and scientists ect! Who have shares in a vaccine! for a 99.96% survival rate virus! It's a shame the actual inventor of the pcr test is no longer with us to verify it doesnt detect a virus. Welcome to the NWO.

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Golfforall
Golfforall
Original Poster
23 days ago

Oh dear ! What loony website do you get your misinformation from ? More important believing such drivel could actually be dangerous to you ,your friends and family !

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MichelleVa31845
MichelleVa3184523 days ago

Just because someone has a different option to you golfforall, it doesn't make them a loony hung up on conspiracy theories. Everyone has a right to choose what is best for them and their families. It's one of the only things we still have a choice on, I'm sure they will try to take that choice away from us soon enough

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Golfforall
Golfforall
Original Poster
23 days ago

Of course they do . They also have the duty to their family to educate themselves to the facts before coming to a decision .

As the kids go through school they will be educated and be taught about this , maybe they will ask the question " Mummy /Daddy why didn't we have the vaccination ? .

At least they should be confident they have the correct information to answer that question .

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