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How are people coping with this 3rd Lockdown?

I find it hard sometimes to stay positive and upbeat as I know there is a vaccine but the light at the end of the tunnel does not seem to be getting closer.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/health/2021/01/it-s-not-just-you-why-current-lockdown-having-extreme-effect-mental-health

SilverSurfer
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SilverSurfer

Leeann Yeah I read that and yeah your right its not a cure but it help build up protection from the virus. So the light at the end of the tunnel is everyone who wants a vaccine has had a vaccine and we can have some sort of life.

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Leannexxx

Getsome yeah that might happen but people think that will be it when it won't covid will still be here people can't have the vaccine coz of other health issues and kids can't have it so when it will stop

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SilverSurfer

Leeann Yeah I know covid wont disappear and it will be like the flu. But once everyone who wants a vaccine has had one then things have to change. We cant just keep going like this or mental health will spiral out of control.

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blacklabrador

I think yesterdays record number of Covid deaths is a stark reminder that this whole situation is far from over.

I would not be at all surprised if things still aren't back to normal next Christmas.

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Lynibis

Whenever people bring up mental health issues I am afraid I do switch off because no matter how anyone feels there is ALWAYS someone worse off than yourself.

There is a lot to be said for 'pulling yourself together' and not wallowing. I have every sympathy for those with mental illness like bipolar, schizophrenia etc but I think as a people we have become far too sensitive, attention seeking, and expect others to be responsible for our own state of mind and well being.

Act happy and think of others first and you will find your own troubles dissolving. There will always be depression and I do not belittle it, but sometimes we are our own worst enemy.

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SilverSurfer

Is depression and anxiety classed as mental health to you?

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Lynibis

Getsome as I said in last sentence I do not belittle real mental health problems and know they can lead to suicide and other problems. What I don't agree with is feeling a bit down one day because it's been a bad day and calling it a mental issue. We all have down days. I am getting on, have health problems, have not seen a soul since boxing day and often have a little cry, especially when watching emotional things on tv. But I do not have mental issues because next day I bounce back and realise how lucky I am.

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SilverSurfer

Lynibis I also don't agree with people using mental health as an excuse but I also don't agree with people who don't think its a bigger problem than it is and wont accept it. Depression and Anxiety can lead to suicide and has done with so many. People wonder why we have mental health issues when people go around calling people snowflakes.

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Lynibis

Getsome trouble is, it must be very difficult to know which are genuine when every other celebrity (living apparently great lives) are on tv going on about their mental issues. Of course people genuinely have mental illness but I personally think 'mental issues ' is a misnomer.

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SilverSurfer

Lynibis Yes there is trouble identifying when people are taking the **** but too many people wont accept mental health how big mental health and cause other people to not speak out by calling them fake or telling them to just shake it off and carry on. A lot of mental health issues have been cause belittling people for having a differences.

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mrgoggll

There's also the problem of the delay between the first and second jabs , medical consensus in other countries is 3 months is to great a gap , it should be 3 weeks

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Golfforall

Look at the number of new daily infections (positive tests) to get a better idea of the progress of COVID . These are down to below 40000 day and falling . Deaths follow catching the virus by 3 to 4 weeks so are a lagging indicator and are expected to peak in the next few days ( 3 or 4 weeks after Xmas/New Year ! ).

Unfortunately we are not yet sure about the efficacy of the vaccine or how long its protection will last but there are tens of thousands of very clever scientists worldwide working on it and improving it daily .

I have absolute confidence in the scientists and that I will be back in my local pub's beer garden by Easter at the latest. By then all of our elderly and vulnerable will be vaccinated so the risk of the NHS being swamped by seriously ill people should be greatly reduced.

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SilverSurfer

You really think that everyone will be back into pubs by Easter? I cant see them getting everyone a vaccine who wants it by then. They are hoping to have offered a vaccine to everyone by September and I'm not hopeful with that.

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Golfforall

Getsome I really do , although at some future date vaccination passports may be required this can't happen until the summer when most will have had the jab .

In the meantime restrictions will be eased (we can't keep lockdown for more than a couple of months ) .

The virus isn't going away , people will still get ill , but with the most vulnerable and elderly protected by the vaccine (those most likely to get seriously ill) and the rest of us by common sense ? the NHS will be able to cope (Not the case now sadly).

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SilverSurfer

Golfforall I would like to agree but I cant see it happening that quick. I hope it does but too many people need vaccines and the vaccination rate has been quite slow.

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Golfforall

Getsome All the over 70s and extremely vulnerable (15 million ) should have it by 15th Feb . Over 5 million done up till yesterday , so well ahead of schedule .

By the end of March these people should hopefully not be going to hospital for Covid reasons which will take the pressure off the NHS.

I say Pubs as an example of the hospitality industry which will have to open as that is over 20% of the UK economy and nearly 25% of all employment .

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SilverSurfer

Golfforall I still don't think that 60-65 million people will be vaccinated or offered vaccination by Easter.

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Golfforall

Getsome No they won't . That isn't the plan , the plan is to have the most vulnerable (those liable to become seriously ill ) protected by Easter . Younger people have a far lesser risk of becoming seriously ill (ie require hospital treatment ) so once the elderly and vulnerable are protected the NHS will be able to deal with the much lower rate of hospitalisations amongst younger adults .

That's the theory . So I predict the lockdown will start easing at the beginning of March and we'll be down to tier2 by the end of March - beginning of April .

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SilverSurfer

Golfforall The plan should be get the vaccines out day and night 24/7 and as quickly a possible. I just cant see any light until next year as I'm low down the queue and with the possibility of vaccine passports makes it even longer before I can travel.

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Golfforall

Getsome That is the plan they're on it already (24/7 vaccinations now being rolled out across the UK) . They say they aim to get every adult vaccinated by the Autumn but it shouldn't take that long .

At the current rate (2 million per week ) it will take till about August to vaccinate all adults , they say they are ramping up to over 3 million a weeks so that should mean all adults will be offered it by June.

On travel , that could be more difficult . We are way ahead of other countries (apart from Israel ) with vaccinations . Whilst travel will come back this summer I'm not sure I'd like to be laying on a beach in Spain or Greece wearing a mask.

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SilverSurfer

Golfforall I can see some travel coming back in the summer just hope that majority of the country have the opportunity through being vaccinated but I don't hold out much hope of government achieving target based off previous lies and failure to hit target.

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SusanEaston327

sick of it

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mrgoggll

The vaccinations won't make a difference , covid is still going to be around and even with the vax people can still get it and pass it on , with a 3 month gap between the 2 jabs it still means months before everyone ( who trusts it ) will vaccinated , vaccinated not immunised Image

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SilverSurfer

So please enlighten me on what the solution is too return to someone sort of normality?

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mrgoggll

If you remember at the begining of the 1st lockdown quite a few " experts " said this will be the New normal , we have to asjust ( either that or it's all a ploy by the NWO to mass collect DNA for genetic re -alignment ?? )

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SilverSurfer

Adjust to what? The current situation? If so this is how we are living now? Locked down, limited shops open, no travelling, no socialising, businesses going bust daily.

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mrgoggll

Getsome It's either that or ignore the regulations and carry on regardless in whatever way makes you feel more secure , it's to late for me ,I'm one of those with blood in their hands ! Image

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SilverSurfer

mrgoggll Adjust to current situation? That's never going to happen and we ain't ever gonna stay in this situation for the rest of our lives. If things didn't change we will be in a civil war by next year.

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Leannexxx

Getsome I think we will be like this until Christmas then we might have a bit of hope until then we have to wait and see

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SilverSurfer

Leeann We cant have this situation for another year, things have to improve for the sake of peoples mental health.

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Leannexxx

Getsome sorry but at this moment mental health means nothing to the government it's all covid and the NHS so if lockdown is keeping the NHS going it will continue

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SilverSurfer

Leeann Mental health will probably be acknowledged by mop head when its too late.

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Leannexxx

Getsome I don't think it's that at all the NHS is struggling with everything they have to stop treatment for cancer patients and all sorts mental health issues will be in line just not at the top

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SilverSurfer

Leeann Mental health issues were here before the pandemic and the NHS is struggling to staff having to isolate and the reduced funding over the past x amount of years. Unfortunately mental health wont get proper acknowledgment because too many people think its a hoax and its not a physical symptom.

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Leannexxx

Getsome I'm just gonna be honest here I've have depression and anxiety I've been on medication for it for years but as I'm pregnant I can't take them anymore will harm my baby and since I've been off them I've never feel better so I hope it continues and I won't need to go bk on them

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SilverSurfer

Leeann I hope you never need to go back too them and fantastic that you don't need them. I hope more people don't have to go on medication but unfortunately its on the rise and the 3rd lockdown is only helping with the rise.

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Leannexxx

Getsome it's not just down to the lockdown tho a lot of places are still open where I am anyway there is u can go od coffee or a walk

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SilverSurfer

Leeann I know its not just down to the lockdown but the lockdown is helping with rise. I know I could go to the only coffee shop open near me or 3 or 4 shops open to be but there only so many times you can go without it being repetitive.

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mrgoggll

If you remember at the begining of the 1st lockdown quite a few " experts " said this will be the New normal , we have to adjust ( either that or it's all a ploy by the NWO to mass collect DNA for genetic re -alignment ?? )

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TheChimp
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SilverSurfer

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TheChimp

Getsome A lot of sufferers try to pretend that they're not affected that badly by their mental health problems, but the people close to them know the score, trust me in that.

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SilverSurfer

TheChimp I totally agree, far too many people think its just something like a bad day but its bigger than that and this lockdown is making it worse for people.

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Sarahvwomble

Can understand what you mean,it goes on and on , at least if you think you will be back to normal after you have something to look forward to,my whole life nearly has been lockdown so not much odds .

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SilverSurfer

Yeah we need some sort of proper direction and a plan and a target to be hoping towards. The first lockdown was fine and second one was ok but this one just feels different and annoying lol

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mrgoggll

My thoughts are that the guy who espoused "herd immunity " at the start of the outbreak was probably right , away with masks , everyone kiss cuddle and canoodle and the devil take the hind most ! Image

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lynneh

mrgoggll that’s David grohl. But it could be goggllgrohl. Seeing as your always on the bam up with comments and gifs. 🙈

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mrgoggll

lynneh I've no idea if thats a compliment or an insult but thanks either way !! Image

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lynneh

mrgoggll 😂 you’re the devil! Image

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mrgoggll

lynneh You say the nicest things Image

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