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Potential Change to the Points System - We'd like Your Feedback!

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Hi guys,

We're thinking about making a small tweak to the points system but would like your feedback before we do anything πŸ™‚

What we might change:

  • Remove points for liking posts (potentially 25 less points per day)
  • Increase the points for commenting by raising the number of comments you get points for per day from 5 to 7 (an extra 40 points per day)
Why we're thinking of making this change:
  • We 100% want to reward the community for all their hard work. That's why we'd overall increase the number of points you can earn every day.
  • We're wondering if by not incentivising people to like deals we'll get a more genuine view of whether a deal is good or bad. Hopefully making it easier for everyone to spot a bobby dazzler from a damp squib.
We'd love to hear everyone's feedback! If people love it - we'll try and get it live ASAP. If you all think it's the worst idea ever then we'll stick it in the bin 😁
Kelsey
Kelsey
Founder
over a year ago
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Deleted57447

I like this new idea and vote for this change πŸ˜€πŸ‘

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hspexy

I think it’s a great idea. Actual comments, feedback and interactions is more valuable than just liking something

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MichelleKe42857

I'd vote in favour of this!

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Username50108

Great idea and will stop a dud being viewed as popular just because members were having their 5 a day and it was at the top of the screen

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Username65022

I like commenting and like same time it’s my opinion 😊

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sunny101

Great idea. πŸ‘

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KirsteyJames

I think its a great idea. Get more people involved in the chat and stop people liking the first few posts they see just for points.

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PhilipMarc

Seems fair. Users should only give a "like" if the deal is worth it, otherwise, don't.

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davidstockport

Those who've persistently "liked" five deals a day for the 25 points, have hopefully killed the golden goose, the "likes" on deals on this site have been nothing short of a joke. I doubt anyone, but a complete fool, has been influenced by them. Hopefully if people are no longer rewarded for liking they might begin to have some relevance.

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PhilipMarc

The whole like system and hot/cold on HUKD have become somewhat indifferent.

On HUKD, some post deals that are 1-2 weeks ahead of time and it's not 100% guaranteed that it will be available, yet it can get really hot. Meh, I don't get too attached to it nor should others get so defensive about it.

I've not posted deals on here for a while, but that's because the deals I'm usually after are on eBay so it's auction and for a niche market. I'm not going to post just for post like some others may do. I don't do it for: "It feels like a good price here." πŸ˜† davidstockport

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JoTarpley

It sounds much fairer to me! It's quite obvious that certain members add their 'Like' to a popular item usually on the first page and totally ignore anything posted earlier in the day and can't be bothered to scroll through anything else so loads of good deals just fall through the net, which is such a shame, when it's obvious that effort is put into searching for that deal in the first place and they are not just posting one deal with variations on that deal for quickness and to get the points which a few do and I find sooo cheeky! It's worth testing to see if it works with a view to making it permanent I think! Well done Kelsey! x

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ellenmcmurchie

I LIKE IT ALOT...

I have never bought a great deal because it's got loads of likes....I buy it because it's a good deal for me.

I also like the chit chat on here... some of it is very inspiring....some πŸ‘Žand not πŸ‘Œ

But we have to respect each others feelings and opinions. My favorite is the hilarious banter...that just naturally flows from time to time. Very entertaining. 😁

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ptenn00

sounds like a good change, will help make the system more meaningful, hopefully. I'm good with it - thanks πŸ‘

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Faye1

I’m not bothered either way. I trust your decision and it’s your site to change things as you please

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BonzoBanana

Definitely seems like an improvement plus get an amazon gift card quicker so that has to be good.

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MrsCraig

I think it's a great idea. I like the deals because I think it is a good deal, so won't bother me if there are no points for liking them.

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Lynibis

I am ok with this but if you can now get extra points for 7 comments maybe think about taking away the 20 points for starting a chat thread. This would encourage better quality chat and folk would still start a chat in order to comment for their points.

Always disagreed with points for liking deals as people like any old rubbish.

Overall this would lose 5 points per day...no problem. Or, as has been suggested before give 20 for the topic once it has received 5 comments from other members. There are too many rubbish topics posted for points alone and some get no comments at all.

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sunny101

Lynibis We are always encouraged to politely point out when a deal is rubbish but what do you do when the description is doubly so? (seen this morning) This does not warrant 100 pts....... 'Possibly cheap. It's in Asda. I need to type a few more words. There we go.' 🀯

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Lynibis

Mmmmmmm angemski good pointπŸ€”

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garygemmell

Not really , if peeps are being dodgy then they will just click the first 5 deals sequentially to get their points - if the devops guys do their stuff and implements an algorithm to check this #(quite a simple thing to do) then it is easy to see who the shills are and penalise them or just send them a polite warning.

I only click deals i like - i mean if you are looking through the list of deals page after page like i do to catch up to find interesting stuff to buy then how difficult is it really to click the ones you like - i think you are being overly critical of most members on here - i think this site has a far better reputation than HUKD which is a horrendous site full of argumentative knowitalls and trolls and quite the most politically correct mods and members of any deals site on the internet - mostly men unfortunately, whereas this site is mostly women and to be fair it seems the fairer sex are more honest, polite and friendly which makes this site a more enjoyable experience and reliable dontya think?

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davidstockport

garygemmell I agree... I have only been to HUKD to "demand" removal of my copyrighted material the place is run by morons, some of the trolls who frequent the site have been here starting trouble - fortunately they're soon evicted.

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garygemmell

davidstockport Yeah have to agree its a terrible site and the owners and mods are the worst - one in particular ANDYWEDGE seems to be the only active Mod now doing what he wants and removing members who dont agree with him - lol like me!

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BORDERJOE

I agree with the idea and also appreciate the chance of more points for valid interaction...thanks.

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ShellyAnn

Honestly, I get fed up of all the point changes here. I can't even keep up what we get for what anymore. I know there's less than there used to be. I am going to be trying to hit the Β£35 amazon voucher this year - and I say this year because that's how long it takes. I've been here since 2017. People moan about it. I wish my life was so simple that all I had to worry about was who was liking what here at latest deals. The last 3 years I had to stop what I was doing for living due to ill health, got forced to move out of my house due to my neighbours, etc and yet there are people who are getting all up tight because someone posted a deal which they don't think was a good deal and their deal was better but they didn't get enough likes for it. Really? No offense everyone but count your blessings if that is all you have to worry about. It seems to me that the more people moan about points the less points there are and hitting the vouchers gets harder. Clearly I'm not just here for that as I've only hit 2 targets since 2017 before anyone comes back with I shouldn't be here just for vouchers. Gets on my nerves. There you go. There's my view. I don't expect anyone to agree but that's ok because when you are an aspie, no one sees anything from your world view.

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Lynibis

Oh dear. Well firstly I have been a member for about same time, early 2017. The points system has not changed at all in that time and is clearly set out on dashboard what you can earn and for what.

I work a 6 day week most weeks but before I go to work I post 3 deals and 5 likes, only those I think are good value. I then 'chat' during the evening and get another 100 points though I can often make 10 comments as I like to chat with or without points. This is 425 points per day without really trying, 2,975 per week, 10 weeks = 29,750 so off the top of my head around 16/17 weeks to get Β£50 voucher so that is Β£150 per year without really trying. Add a few topics, comps and reports, if genuine, and it is even more.

I am really truly sorry you have had such a hard time but Tom has asked a question to gauge our reaction and some of us have given our opinions, so good little democracy.

I hope 2020 is a much better year for you, but maybe it is a good idea not to have a go at those who are not responsible for your bad time as I am sure we all wish you well.

PS what is an aspie?

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MrsCraig

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Lynibis

MrsCraig but aren't all the topics on here mostly trivial? And I doubt there is a single person on here who hasn't had tragedy and hardship in their life, I certainly have. It doesn't mean I can't chat about meaningless, unimportant things and we are, after all, being given a say in the way the site issues points.

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MrsCraig

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Lynibis

Hi MrsCraig I hope you didn't remove your posts because of my reply, I have re-read it and didn't feel it would offend you in any way, if you have taken it amiss then I apologise as it was certainly not my intention. We all complain from time to time about trivial chat topics. I was just pointing out that despite despair in our personal life we can still look forward to hopefully a brighter future. You have been through more than most but remain upbeat, long may that continue.

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davidstockport

Lynibis "What is an aspie?" That had me wondering too.... I thought at first it was one of those snakes that bit Cleopatra (AKA Elizabeth Taylor). But found it is a person suffering from Asperger's syndrome.

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Lynibis

Ah, thanks for that davidstockport

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MrsCraig

Lynibis no it had nothing to do with your reply, I was in no way offended by it and did not take it amiss at all. I took it down just incase it would have offended anyone, as I certainly would not want to do that. Just because I didn't think it was worth complaining about doesn't mean that someone else doesn't and that should be respected.

I agree that we need to talk about trivial and meaningless things and complain about them too from time to time, goodness knows it is probably what gets us all through the difficult times.

I've always tried to be upbeat as otherwise things would have just collapsed around me and I wouldn't have coped. Plus I still had my son to look after and we needed to make each day as happy as possible for him. And you are right, despite the despair we went through, he now has a very bright and happy future ahead of him, hopefully full of complaining about trivial things!

I didn't mean to upset or offend anyone, which is why I removed the comment, just incase it had done that, as it was not my intention and if it did upset or offend then I am truly sorry.

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Lynibis

MrsCraig ah, well nice to know neither of us offended and I certainly saw nothing at all wrong in your comment. Life is very complicated these days on any form of social media but I personally think it is ok to disagree as long as it's friendly, hopefully Shelly can see that. It's a bit late but hope 2020 brings you only good things and lots of fun with your son as he learns more. I love age 1 to 3 when they are toddlers.

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MrsCraig

Lynibis thank you. He has just learnt how to stand unaided and is using the furniture to walk with, so I think he will be walking soon! He also loves to hear his voice, so he is babbling away lots. Plus he now let's you know when he is not happy about something. His dad took the dogs squeaky toy off him yesterday and he screamed the house down. He is such a wee character

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garygemmell

Lynibis Never apologise for what you believe in Lyn - stand firm and if someone gets offended that is their problem!

Chatting about "meaningless" stuff to one person may not be meaningless to someone else!

Its the reason our society is in such dire straits because no one has the balls to stand up for what they believe in!

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Lynibis

Exactly nnnnnnnn. This is not a paid job it is something you take part in if you so wish and therefore the rewards are an added bonus. I am not sure why people are quibbling about it.

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tumblespots

Lynibis I just looked that up and came up with - a person with Asperger's syndrome. 🐞

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Lynibis

Thanks for that tumblespots

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Kelsey
Founder

Hey guys πŸ™‚ Thanks all for your feedback and look forward to hopefully reading more! πŸ™‚

Please do try and keep it on topic as to whether or not you think the idea is good. Thanks!

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garygemmell

Does it really matter what anyone says! as its all about revenue and you will cut what you need from the cloth to maximise your profits - I have not seen altruism in business for decades and i doubt i ever will so just do what you have to please the accountants, the small people do not matter, never have done , never will and that sadly is life in a commercial and consumer society!

If you were honest you would actually admit you are asking "if we remove this incentive how many members will we lose or how much input will we lose from our members"

The answer is you wont have any likes at all and you will have to employ mods once the comments get nasty , trolling, argumentative etc - Thats the way of things with people - believe me i have worked on many websites and forums and have experienced it myself - Just take a look at HUKD and its messy argumentative and hostile environment its not a nice place to post a deal so that why i gave up on it and came on here!

Sad to say but this site is mostly inhabited by women hence the lack of arguments and nastiness - says a lot about us guys eh but if it works as this site does then why change it - Doesnt your marketing guys know the old KISS methodology - back to marketing school!

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Mango4

Although I'm not bothered either way just wanted to put a bit of different perspective on this .

I understand that some people are liking posts just to get the points, but I also think that most people who post deals, want their posts to be liked and when they are it spurns them on to post further deals and participate in the site more . If the post are not being liked as much some users may take that as a form of rejection. Adding points to the comments to encourage more interaction that way will possibly result in just a load of extra meaningless comments just made for the points.

If changes are being made o the site definitely any P&P costs need to be shown clearly unless Click n collect or store pick up is available .

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Lynibis

They will continue to post good or bad deals as it gets them 100 points per post. I actually never even look to see if my deals have had likes, once they are posted I forget about them.

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garygemmell

Lynibis Haha you are obviously not ocd then lol

I only post deals i like to be honest - is that unusual then?

Sadly a lot of my deals were on banggood and alibaba but now you cannot post em!

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rls

I agree with the points being removed for the liking because it doesn't always make a true reading of what's a popular deal or not

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LeighReidAtanas

Agree it would be better to change it and for those who don’t agree you are entitled to your own opinion

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AgnesFaludi

If we do not like things, because we will not get points we will not see which deals are popular.

I do not mind to be honest because the comments will bring more points.

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Mango5

I like this new idea

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InaShah

Maybe liking a post should get 1/2 points just so that does not die down on a good deal. But I definitely prefer reading through the chat section.

The problem is even if something is a good deal. Does that actually make people purchase that item is the issue with liking a good deal.

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AliceBell64468

I don’t mind either way but I think that if people stop getting points for their likes then you will probably find nobody likes anything! It will be a good test to see if people actually bother to leave a like if they don’t get no points in return.

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davidstockport

It will indeed be a good test to see - I am almost certain which way that test will go having seen many totally rubbish deals with numerous likes (presumably from the "that's one of my five a day merchants" and really good deals (that don't seem that great from the title) with just a few.

It makes the "likes" totally meaningless - I've not taken any notice of them for a long time. I might start doing if and when those likes haven't been bought.

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