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Do You Think It Should Be Compulsory for Care Workers to Have the Covid Vaccine?

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They are trying to make the Covid vaccine compulsory for all care workers. What do you think? I think they should all have it. What’s your thoughts?

julie781x
3 weeks ago
What do you think of this?
tara73ziva
tara73ziva3 weeks ago

I am a care worker and I have had both my vaccines , I do think that it should be freedom of choice but when you are looking after elderly or vulnerable people you should get your vaccine to protect them and yourself as if you work in a care home or look after people in there own home you can transfer the virus to them, so yes if you work in that environment it should be compulsory

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Mango4
Mango43 weeks ago

No I don't think it should be compulsory for anyone. Freedom of choice. By all means encourage others and educate people about the benefits ,use all relevant PPE and safety procedures available, but compulsory injecting people against their wishes No.

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Golfforall
Golfforall3 weeks ago

Of course it should , as it should be for all in the many health professions .

It's not freedom of choice for those who are being cared for , so how can it be a "freedom of choice" issue for those who choose to work in the care industry ?

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awebs10692
awebs106923 weeks ago

Golfforall The people who are being cared for and who want the vaccine will be protected by their own vaccination. Enforcing vaccinations is unethical.

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Golfforall
Golfforall3 weeks ago

awebs10692 Pretty sure we all know that that none of the vaccines are 100% effective ?

So an infected care worker (who are unaware they have COVID) may only pass on the virus to , say , 5% -10% of their charges . Personally I would say that was unethical ! Have you really thought it through ?

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awebs10692
awebs106923 weeks ago

Golfforall Have you really thought it through?

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Golfforall
Golfforall3 weeks ago

awebs10692 Yes I have , I get it that you are anti vax , that is your human right of course . I also believe that it is the human right of care home residents to be cared for by staff who are not infectious . These residents in general cannot pick and choose who cares for them and by definition are very vulnerable .

It is therefore incumbent on the Care home and staff to ensure that no infection reaches their "guests" . What is the simplest way to ensure that ?

Would you stay at a hotel that proudly boasts that none of it's staff are vaccinated , and never will be ?

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awebs10692
awebs106923 weeks ago

Golfforall "I get that you are anti vaxx". No I'm not. I'm pro vaccine and pro science. You are incredibly patronising.

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awebs10692
awebs106923 weeks ago

Golfforall Let's imagine this scenario. I know the question was about care workers but imagine that all NHS staff had to take the vaccine too.

A surgeon with 20 years experience doesn't want the vaccine. Should she be forced to take it, or should she be fired? Considering that the surgeon will have taken regular covid tests and wears PPR in a sterile environment, and the patient has been vaccinated? Should she lose her job and deprive the NHS of an experienced surgeon?

I personally wouldn't care if hotel staff hadn't been vaccinated, as long as all other measures were being taken. If the hotel boasted about the fact then I wouldn't stay there because that would be a pretty strange advertising campaign lol.

I would care however if I lived in a world where people are forced to take any form of medicine. Where people have to prove to one another they've had it before they can earn money. If we allow this practice to start who knows where it will end?

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Golfforall
Golfforall3 weeks ago

awebs10692 Think you will find that all surgeons are required to take the Hepatitis jab (and it has been such for many years ) . So maybe not a good example ? You haven't thought it through , have you ?

I think we are past the stage where the jab could be considered "risky" ? Maybe the websites you visit are still out of date (or prefer not to update ? ) .

If we try hard enough , or choose not to exercise our own intellect we can always find a wacky website to support our views (from wherever they originally came from ? ) .

Ever taken the pill ? or aspirin for a headache, vitamins etc (all of which come with health warnings and are far more dangerous than the jab ) .

Are you a conspiracy theorist ? But all those theories are wearing a bit thin month by month .

I agree that care workers shouldn't be sacked because they don't want the jab , but they should be educated about the risks they could share and for prospective employees it should be a mandatory requirement .

Then I suppose it all depends on where we find ourselves ? The take up has been low in certain areas of the country (lack of information , explanation ?) but suddenly when the threat has become real (and local) people are queuing round the block to get their jab .

It's a good discussion to have , maybe a bit of research may lead you to consider further . However I think most folk now accept (some reluctantly ) that the jab not only protects the recipient (obviously ) but protects the rest of society from onward transmission .

In essence you are saying that you are relying on the tens of millions of us who are vaccinated to protect you from COVID ? Fair enough , you have that choice - but most of the residents of care homes do not have that choice .

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awebs10692
awebs106923 weeks ago

Golfforall Mate, again with the patronising. Is it that hard to communicate without resorting to personal attacks?

You are making a lot of assumptions and projecting things you have heard about anti vaxers on to my comments. I for one dont visit wacky websites and I'm not a conspiracy theorist. My brother in law is a ENT surgeon, my sister is a care worker who caught covid at work back last year, and I myself study natural science at university, so as you'd imagine 've had many conversations about covid. I have done plenty of research on the topic so I'm well aware of how it all works. Also, I didn't say I'm not getting vaccinated.

As for the hepatitis vaccine, the vaccines are offered but they are not an absolute requirement. There are work arounds for staff who haven't been vaccinated. Same with the TB vaccine. For example they may be restricted from caring for specific patients.

I know conspiracy theorists and I find communicating with them so difficult. Some of the theories out there are insane and damaging.

My stance is this: Patients who want to be vaccinated get vaccinated, same with staff. Staff who are not vaccinated must wear full PPE and be tested regularly. In this environment, risk would be minimised and workers retain their rights.

It's easy to assume that everyone who doesn't think like you is a crazy conspiracy theorist, or selfish, etc etc. But that's not the case.

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Glitterandgold
Glitterandgold3 weeks ago

No I don't. The media / government etc should focus on building trust in the vaccine rather than enforcing it. Scare mongering news reports about blood clots etc don't help. Forcing anyone to have a drug or medicine they dont want is wrong on every level.

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Golfforall
Golfforall3 weeks ago

Don't think "forcing" was part of the discussion , nor was sacking . It should be a requirement if you wish to enter any health profession . I presume you have the same views re the Pill , or Aspirin , vitamins etc which many of us take without a second thought (all of which are far more dangerous than the jab ) .

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Glitterandgold
Glitterandgold3 weeks ago

Golfforall If they make vaccines compulsory for health workers (or anyone) then yes that is forced imo. I never said anything about sacking? Your also presuming from my comment that I'm a anti vaxer, same as you have presumed the above poster is too. Im not. Infact I'll be getting my second jab of Astra on Sunday, so your comment about pills etc is just daft. Getting the vaccine was a decision I made MYSELF after originally being hesitant. I do not think it's a good idea to pressure, guilt trip or make compulsory / force people to into taking ANY medicine or drugs they aren't comfortable taking. It's a dangerous road to venture down & frankly criminal.

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Pjran
Pjran3 weeks ago

Yes but it should be compulsory for all workers in NHS including cleaners and porters. Although they’re not front line they could be carriers. I know it’s their Human Right to make the decision but would they really want to infect the vulnerable?

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RegularComper90
RegularComper903 weeks ago

They should certainly be encouraged to take it, but not forced into doing so.

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Leannexxx
Leannexxx3 weeks ago

No I don't its a choice to have it they have all worked without the vaccine throughout this pandemic so don't think its fair now they should have to have it

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