Your Thoughts on Making the Garrick Gentlemen's Club Open to Women
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I am a total believer in equality, equal rights blah blah blah but do women really need to keep pushing their way into every male domain?
So what if the men have a male only environment to escape to. I would be incensed if they tried to push their way into a female only environment that I was a member of. I would be wondering why there was nowhere I could go without having men needing to spoil it.
I understand a lot of business might be conducted there but there could be a women only club and a unisex club so anyone could join two out of three.
And don't get me started on the folk who are hassling a chippy called Jack the Chipper as being disrespectful to women when it is part of the area in which he committed his crimes. I doubt anyone would complain about a retail outlet called Neilsons Column!
I believe in equality and equal rights, but I don't think there's anything wrong with having some things that are just for men, because we have plenty of things that are just for women.
There are loads of "women only" clubs, businesses, classes, services, etc. A friend of mine used to go to a women only gym- female customers, female staff, no men allowed. You don't see men protesting about any of these things, saying they are not inclusive or that they should be allowed to join.
So glad you feel that way because I must admit to feeling a bit of a dinosaur in today's world. It's as if some secret organisation has an agenda to try and make genderless humanoids the norm.
Without a doubt, they should be allowed to keep it. I don't see any men in the WI (although perhaps there is?). If they are honest both sexes want somewhere they can go without the other being present. The world has gone mad with all this PC cr*p. Here's another I saw yesterday.....
It really defies logic.
Yes, I saw that too and rolled my eyes. The trouble with all these PC nutty ideas is that they start with one individual who wants a moment of attention in the limelight. They may be part of a tiny minority but they want everyone else (who aren't part of that minority) to dance to their tune. Men can get breast cancer and no one, to my knowledge, has suggested we call that chest cancer.
Another recently given tv time was the headmaster who has banned the use of 'boys and girls' in his school. The mind boggles at people like this are in charge of young minds.
Why should the majority conform to the minority, not at all democratic.
Lynibis I think it really does reflect badly on society as a whole when they start teaching these maddening things in schools, it must be so confusing for them if they have just spent the last 7 years learning the proper way to address people. We should all be up in arms about it. The scary thing is that if a boy in a school decides he wants to be known as a girl - he is then allowed in the girls loos and changing rooms! It's total cr*p and really open to abuse.
tumblespots even more confusing when probably at home the parents do not follow the teachers lead. I can just imagine a child telling parents 'you mustn't say boys and girls mummy'. The mind boggles because the logical follow up is not to say mummy and daddy but 'hello parents'!!!!!
I don't think there is anything wrong with having men only clubs, there are plenty of things that are women only.
I'm all for equality and equity but I don't think it is an issue having separate clubs.
I saw the Jack the Chipper chat on This Morning yesterday, the name didn't bother me.
I am just so tired of living in a world where tiny groups of people are trying to bring everyone else in line with their ideas and desires.
We all seem to live on a knife edge of political correctness these days where no one feels able to stand against this crazy new world thinking in fear of being castigated.
There are many unisex clubs out there. Why not just go to those?
I have to say that you don't hear men complaining about women only clubs.
I suppose it depends on the reasoning for excluding a sector of society. This is not a ‘men’s shed’ type club where men can go to enjoy other male company, it is a very powerful institution whose membership is largely made up of senior judiciary and MPs and used for networking. Both of these professions struggle to with recruitment and equal pay for women.
I don't doubt that there is a hint of misogyny in the old school members of such clubs, hence my suggestion that they could have a club for both genders and separate for each.
There are still a lot of men who probably secretly resent womens intrusion into the boardroom just as I find it hard to accept all the stuff mentioned above. I guess many of the whisky swilling cigar smoking old boy network find it hard to accept women in positions of power.
Any societal change takes time and there will always be a section of society that misses out as the world moves on.
I didn't dare dream of university as I knew it was never on the cards for me. I was told in no uncertain terms by dad that I had to start work at 15 and bring in some dosh lol.
Yes we wanna wipe men out joking its gone ridiculous can't even sell radox for men so my husband stopped using it now lol
I forgot to mention the one of the oldest mens clubs - The Masons. Women clearly aren't allowed to join that but I do believe that (to placate the women) they have got a couple of women only Masons clubs these days.
Overall I am so fed up with this politically correct world and, as I mentioned above, we are really doing the next generation a disservice by trying to kowtow to those who want to change us all into 'gender neutral persons' rather than boys & girls / men & women, it's so absurd.
It really is time that the majority recovered their voice and told the minority that they won't play by their stupid new rules.
I couldn't agree more. Well said.
I think my deceased uncle was a Mason (my boss currently is) and I seem to remember them having a lady's night.
The rotary club now has a female version, I have a friend who is a member, her late husband was in the gents one.
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